Michael Jackson deserves better than this.

S

StuBru

Enthusiast
He truly deserves better than this! Why is this new video appearing now???

It shows Michael in 1996 being interrogated by lawyers about sexual harassment.


And Jesus said to love the children and be like children. To be youthful and be innocent and be pure and honorable. He was talking to his Apostles and they were fighting over who was the greatest among themselves. And He said, ‘Whoever humble yourself like this child is the greatest among me’. And He always surrounded himself with children. And that’s how I was raised to believe and to be like that and to imitate that. I don’t know what you’re trying to make out of this.
http://www.mj-blog.com/mj-latest-news/new-leaked-michael-jackson-video-proves-his-innocence
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
This guy should be in prison for what he did. The fact he's not is the real tragedy.
Disagree, I think any parent that would take $22 million to walk away from the person that molested their child should be in prison because either:
a) They're not fit to be a parent
b) They're committing extortion
If anyone molested my child it would either be prison or death at my own hands for them, even $1 billion wouldn't allow me to walk away from the man that molested my son.
Anyone familiar with the actual facts of the Chandler case (Jordan never admitted to anything until his dentist father shot him up with Sodium Pentathol which is a mind-altering substance that makes people extremely open to any suggestion) and the money grabbing ex-employees that sold their stories to Hard Copy for hundreds of thousands of dollars knows that MJ was exploited. Funny how none of the Culkin kids ever accused MJ of anything...and they all had tonnes of money. Coincidence? I think not. Jordan Chandler who is now in his twenties lives in a mansion on Long Island under an assumed name and also has a nice condo in Manhattan. Oh and get this, his father tried to sue Jackson again (and included Disney, Sony and Lisa-Marie in the suit) for $60 million because he claimed one of the songs referred very loosely to the case. The suit was thrown out.

God knows if he ever sends Christ back down he'd be crucified 10 years quicker this time around.

You were talking about Michael, not Joe, right? :)
 
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MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
I feel what your saying, but, would you let your child go to Neverland Ranch and sleep over and eat warm cookies with him and sleep in his bed?
 
J

Jeepers

Full Audioholic
I feel what your saying, but, would you let your child go to Neverland Ranch and sleep over and eat warm cookies with him and sleep in his bed?
We all know the answer is No but that doesn't make him guilty however it says enough about the parents doing this.
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
I feel what your saying, but, would you let your child go to Neverland Ranch and sleep over and eat warm cookies with him and sleep in his bed?
We're talking about 13 year olds here. Would a 110lb man have been able to subdue you at 13? I was about 150lbs at 13 and if I wanted to stay overnight at Michael Jackson's place I don't think my parents would have got in my way. It's easy to say no they wouldn't after the accusations came out, but before Mr. Chandler put his son up to extort Jackson Neverland was a place were most of the kids had their parents there with them. Who wouldn't have wanted to stay for free at a place with free amusement rides, a free zoo, 5-star free food, etc., etc?

We're not talking about 4 year old's here. A lot of people mention "child" and forget that the accuser was 13 when he said these events happened (on a brain full of Sodium Pentathol no less). That's still a child, but it's not really the image that the word "child" brings to mind. Pre-teen or teen would be more accurate in each of the cases that went to trial.
 
ozmedia

ozmedia

Audioholic
I feel what your saying, but, would you let your child go to Neverland Ranch and sleep over and eat warm cookies with him and sleep in his bed?
LET your child? Parents pushed and urged him to let their children into Neverland ranch with hopes to get them in his videos and have him make their kids stars. Essentially his kindness was exploited by the parents of the children. When they didn't get in his videos, they sought other ways to get his money in a very vengeful manner.

They talk about a few individual boys, however little was said about the endless line of buses that brought sick children to enjoy Neverland ranch, often as a child's final wish. MJ was never a child, he lived out his childhood as if he was Peter Pan, it was his own Never Never land.

As for coughing up 22 million, his sister and Priscilla (admittedly) urged him to do so because of failing health and stress of the courts. MJ completely fabricated the Wacko Jacko press himself, his agents called the Enquirer and reported him sleeping in an oxygen chamber that he never actually owned or had in his home (press pics were not taken at his home), the whole elephant man's bones thing was made up too, MJ knew how to play the press and create hysteria that he could easily ignore and get on with his life in the meantime.

It's nice to see a forum with sane minds for a change instead of the grade school, pedo comments seen everywhere else, generally posted by people with no clue what they are on about.
 
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lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
"At the BET Awards, Joe Jackson seemed far less interested in his son’s legacy, the lingering questions surrounding his death and the children he left behind. Instead, he took the opportunity to try to market some new brand of pop-music smack on the world. It was a bad look."

http://www.theroot.com/views/shameless-joe-jackson?GT1=38002

I may have a bizarre sense of humor but at least I've got some sensitivity.

This is MJ's father, fercheezsake.
This guy should be in prison for what he did. The fact he's not is the real tragedy.
Disagree, I think any parent that would take $22 million to walk away from the person that molested their child should be in prison because either:
a) They're not fit to be a parent
b) They're committing extortion
If anyone molested my child it would either be prison or death at my own hands for them, even $1 billion wouldn't allow me to walk away from the man that molested my son.
Anyone familiar with the actual facts of the Chandler case (Jordan never admitted to anything until his dentist father shot him up with Sodium Pentathol which is a mind-altering substance that makes people extremely open to any suggestion) and the money grabbing ex-employees that sold their stories to Hard Copy for hundreds of thousands of dollars knows that MJ was exploited. Funny how none of the Culkin kids ever accused MJ of anything...and they all had tonnes of money. Coincidence? I think not. Jordan Chandler who is now in his twenties lives in a mansion on Long Island under an assumed name and also has a nice condo in Manhattan. Oh and get this, his father tried to sue Jackson again (and included Disney, Sony and Lisa-Marie in the suit) for $60 million because he claimed one of the songs referred very loosely to the case. The suit was thrown out.

God knows if he ever sends Christ back down he'd be crucified 10 years quicker this time around.

You were talking about Michael, not Joe, right? :)
And so should everyone else who's ever been found to be not guilty?
Some people should read the thread before attacking my posts. If you read it in the context of it's delivery you would realize my statement was aimed at Joe Jackson not Micheal.

Micheal hasn't been convicted of anything other than being Wacko Jacko and a great musician.


God knows if he ever sends Christ back down he'd be crucified 10 years quicker this time around.
I wouldn't be so sure. Isn't he supposed to conquer the world with a heavenly army on his return?
 
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
We're talking about 13 year olds here. Would a 110lb man have been able to subdue you at 13?
Maybe if he mixed some barbituates with my milk and cookies before bedtime.
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
All of this adds up to a very sad tragedy.

These people have no chance with all that money to be rehabilitated.
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
Maybe if he mixed some barbituates with my milk and cookies before bedtime.
You were having milk and cookies at bedtime when you were 13?

Some people should read the thread before attacking my posts. If you read it in the context of it's delivery you would realize my statement was aimed at Joe Jackson not Micheal.
dobyblue said:
You were talking about Michael, not Joe, right?
I did ask though! :D
I wouldn't be so sure. Isn't he supposed to conquer the world with a heavenly army on his return?
Yeah, what I should have said was if his FIRST visit was now...

:)

I wonder if Galactic Overlord Xenu will try and head him off at the pass?
 
R

ragged

Senior Audioholic
I really don't see what the big deal is about MJ's death. Yeah, he was a big star, but so what, it's not like he was your friend. I just don't get why people are crying. Cry if your family or close friend passes away, or even shed a tear for some kid who starved to death, not over somebody who didn't even know you existed.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
I really don't see what the big deal is about MJ's death. Yeah, he was a big star, but so what, it's not like he was your friend. I just don't get why people are crying. Cry if your family or close friend passes away, or even shed a tear for some kid who starved to death, not over somebody who didn't even know you existed.
I see your point, but, I think a lot of people identified with this guy. He truely is the king of pop, and there probably will never be another artist with the amount of fans he had. He truely was/is a worldwide star.

It seems that you either get this tradgety, or you don't. You and I, and some others on here, obviously aren't making the connection. And, I haven't had anyone vocalize to me really why they are so upset.

Some say he was the king of pop, brought dancing and the wholistic approach of pop music into its modern form. Dancing, personality, marketing, stage presence. It's difficult, or impossible even, to argue that the guy wasn't a good performer, I mean, even someone who didn't like his music has to admit the guy was a killer performer.

But what strikes some of us as a little false, is that there wasn't much talk of Jackson, or outward fans, until he died. You heard more of the man himself than is music, and regardless of what you consider to be molestation or not, or what the truth is... as difficult as it is to argue he wasn't a great of pop music, its as difficult to argue that he wasn't weird.

Maybe people are upset because they feel he was a story of an American tradgety. A rebound of American "dream seeking" .. the darkside of it all. A guy that was isolated and created for the amusement of others. And with this rise of popular music, he became part of the memories of a lot of peoples childhoods. The only connection I can see between all the coverage, is that people remember from him. Maybe not even him, but, where they were with his music, what was going on then.

Then I hear the other side, that while one argues he broke barriers of race, others argue that he denied his own. While one side argues he was a product of other peoples evil and greed, others say he was just a crazy pedophile.

Another thing I have noticed, is while people feel helpless about the economy, and even the experts don't seem to have much of an opinion about it or when it will recover, this is a magnificent distraction. It's something everyone can have an opinion about and be an expert on. Everything is so blurry now, and abstract, that this seems viseral to people. I think people have so much built up pain right now, and its so unexplainable, that this is like someone let them scream.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
And we are done. Shows over. Nothing to see here. Now let's let each person remember him as we see it and move on.
 
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
I know, I know, but...

Maybe if he mixed some barbituates with my milk and cookies before bedtime.
...they should hire me as a consultant..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/10/jackson.thursday/index.html

Okay, so, benzos not barbs.

I wasn't gunna bump this, but, I figured anyone interested in how he died might be interested in this, which, I don't think they'll end up connecting because most doctors are completely oblivious to drugs in recreational doses, probably because they were smart enough not to try that.

...one thing I will say about people I've known that have abused Xanax, is that for some reason a lot of times after taking a few they'll sit there and have their entire bag. I don't mean like I've seen this happen once, I mean, I've seen it happen a number of times. It's hard to describe, plus I was of course well ****ered in my own way.... but, it's not like they are trying to kill themselves, its like the Xanax makes them just sit there and take and take and take, like a robot. So, when these people are saying Jackson took 10 or even 30 or 40 a night, and most people are like "yeah right," I can really believe that. I've seen someone polish off a month perscription of the peach ones (1/2mg's?) in the time I ate a sandwich. Like, they had no memory of taking the first one, and so taking the second was like the first, and so forth. Xanax makes people really stupid. I mean, all drugs make you stupid, but, Xanax makes you really stupid. It's like that game "Lemmings"
 

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