Looking for Universal Remote Control

CajunLB

CajunLB

Full Audioholic
Hello AH. I’m in the market for a universal remote control. I am use the old universal remote controls that is only turn power and channels on and off. What I am looking for is a universal remone that can be programmed to use all the features that the factory remote Control could use, such as go into the set up menu on an avr setup menu to change speaker levels are surround parameters. Old cheap universal remotes only use to control power,volume,channels and that’s about it. I’m just trying to figure out if they make any universal remotes now that are capable of being used to watch/tv/Blu-Ray programs and allow me to make adjustments on my
Denon AVR X3600H using a universal remote ?
I mean like raising or lowering the center channel or subwoofer channel,change surround settings. Płease all options welcome.
 
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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Harmony remotes with basic database programming does some of that and more is possible if you spend time on the specific commands from my understanding but to drill into setuo menus I find keeping the avr remote handy is easier but I don't do all that much tweaking....and I only have fairly basicmodels (600 & 650).
 
highfigh

highfigh

Audioholic Overlord
Harmony remotes have a 'Device' button that allows controlling ONLY the device selected, rather than in an activity. If you want to go into the setup menu, press Menu when in Device Mode and you'll be able to make the changes needed. Once you're done, press the Device button until the screen returns to that mode- the 600 and 650 have been replaced by the 655, which can control a larger number of devices in each account.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Harmony remotes have a 'Device' button that allows controlling ONLY the device selected, rather than in an activity. If you want to go into the setup menu, press Menu when in Device Mode and you'll be able to make the changes needed. Once you're done, press the Device button until the screen returns to that mode- the 600 and 650 have been replaced by the 655, which can control a larger number of devices in each account.
Still, with the basic initial programming they are only so useful even in device mode compared to the actual remote....
 
CajunLB

CajunLB

Full Audioholic
Thanks for the suggestions. I like to make adjustments depending on the program playing. I’ll just keep my factory remotes. If I still need them to make adjustments I can’t justify spending 100 bucks just for power volume and channel changing.
 
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highfigh

Audioholic Overlord
Still, with the basic initial programming they are only so useful even in device mode compared to the actual remote....
Huh? It can use every command available to the OEM remote and if the codes aren't in the database, it can learn them- try doing that with an OEM remote.
 
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highfigh

Audioholic Overlord
Thanks for the suggestions. I like to make adjustments depending on the program playing. I’ll just keep my factory remotes. If I still need them to make adjustments I can’t justify spending 100 bucks just for power volume and channel changing.
You can add whatever commands you want in each activity.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Spartan
Thanks for the suggestions. I like to make adjustments depending on the program playing. I’ll just keep my factory remotes. If I still need them to make adjustments I can’t justify spending 100 bucks just for power volume and channel changing.
I guess you skipped my suggestion. Won’t be the first or last. Rahaha.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Huh? It can use every command available to the OEM remote and if the codes aren't in the database, it can learn them- try doing that with an OEM remote.
Yes, if you work on it. I'm saying with just the basic programming of the remote with the Logitech database, that everything isn't automatically available....I understand by spending some extra time with it with additional programming/learning mode you can mimic it. I just don't find them worth the time myself compared to just picking up the avr remote for deep diving into the setting menu....maybe the OP might benefit from extra time spent tweaking the remote if he changes avr settings that much. I just looked at one of mine with the basic automatic programming to change speaker levels like the OP mentioned, couldn't even find the setup menu (some of the choices I could scroll thru were from within the setup menu, but no direct access to the setup menu itself, and no sign of the speaker level setup). Could well vary with avr, this is with my Denon 4520 and a Harmony 600. YMMV.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Audioholic Overlord
Yes, if you work on it. I'm saying with just the basic programming of the remote with the Logitech database, that everything isn't automatically available....I understand by spending some extra time with it with additional programming/learning mode you can mimic it. I just don't find them worth the time myself compared to just picking up the avr remote for deep diving into the setting menu....maybe the OP might benefit from extra time spent tweaking the remote if he changes avr settings that much. I just looked at one of mine with the basic automatic programming to change speaker levels like the OP mentioned, couldn't even find the setup menu (some of the choices I could scroll thru were from within the setup menu, but no direct access to the setup menu itself, and no sign of the speaker level setup). Could well vary with avr, this is with my Denon 4520 and a Harmony 600. YMMV.
The Denon database does have discrete commands for changing the level of each channel, but on the 600/650/700/655 models, it's not going to be super easy to lay out. OTOH, those are basic models and the vast majority of users of those models will never use most of those commands and they were never intended for comprehensive control.

Let me know if you want the complete command file- Harmony can add any command that comes on an OEM remote and if it's only available in hexidecimal, they can convert it and add it to the account. Once it's proven to be correct, they'll add these codes to the master database if they haven't, already- I sent the file to them a couple of years ago. The remote manufacturers I have spoken with told me they don't automatically get all codes for all models from the equipment manufacturers and they aren't always correct when they do arrive. From my experience, Harmony's database is far more complete than those of RTi & URC and URC has actually added a Help button to some of their remote models after years of making comments about how Harmony is like the ugly red-headed step child of the remote industry at their product training sessions.

I can check with Demon on Tuesday to see if their database has changed since I got the file- they tend to leave things as-is WRT commands for each type of device unless there's a good reason to add/delete.

One thing to beware of- if you go into device mode on a Harmony or leave all commands available on a URC- pressing the button for numeral 1 may make the volume go to WOT.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Audioholic Overlord
Thanks for the suggestions. I like to make adjustments depending on the program playing. I’ll just keep my factory remotes. If I still need them to make adjustments I can’t justify spending 100 bucks just for power volume and channel changing.
You can make the adjustments in each activity, but I would suggest looking for setup tips on the Logitech website and YouTube or by calling their tech support number- they're usually very helpful.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Keep in mind my experience is with the 600/650 only. I'd also look further into it, my warning was more about my experience with that model/feature level. I don't know how much easier it can be with their more capable models (like a hub/phone based one), it just doesn't bother me as I infrequently play with speaker levels or that sort of dive into setup while watching and the avr remotes are not far away for that. I do use the Harmony for most of my watching/listening uses, tho....easier for macros at least for turning gear on/off and to correct inputs etc....

Thanks for the offer @highfigh but I'm happy as is.
 
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Paul Mohr

Audioholic Intern
I have a few of the harmony remotes, and older cheaper 600 series and a harmony One. Both work pretty well to be honest. The older less expensive remote is a bit more simple to use but doesn't do as much. The harmony One was more expensive but it can do a lot more. And it programs via an app on your computer. It can pretty much do everything and more than most of my factory remotes can do. And you can set up different macros and stuff so basically hitting one button will turn everything on and select the correct inputs and what not. My harmony will access the service menus on my tv which you cannot do with the factory remote. You need a harmony, a special remote or an app on a smart phone to do it. They can even control other devices like lighting and stuff. So lets say you had a theater with a projector and motorized screen. You turn the whole system on, select the correct inputs, turn off the lights and lower your screen all with one button. Or control mulitple systems if you want. The one I have is discontinued but I would assume the newer ones are as good or better.

I still keep the other remotes handy though for set up and adjustments. They are just easier to navigate for that kind of stuff.
 

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