I agree the Joseph's were out of budget for me too. The ones I auditioned was the RM 25 and RM 33. They were both gorgeous, spent quite a bit of time listening. The 25 was closest to my budget but did not extend like the 3.6. The 33 was a good fit and met almost every criteria I had, but there was no way I could afford them.Interesting that you liked them. The Joseph Audio speaker that caught my interest was the Perspective. It may be somewhat similar to the RM33 (no longer available) you had liked. It uses two Seas Excel W16 mid woofers plus a Seas Excel T25 Millennium tweeter, and cost (a few years ago) more than $12k per pair. I liked what I heard, but, as you said, no way could I afford them.\n\nI mentioned to Dennis Murphy how much I liked it, and a few years later Salk developed the Veracity ST speaker. It has the same two mid woofers as the Perspective, but uses a RAAL ribbon tweeter in a mass-loaded transmission line cabinet (bass down to 34 Hz). It costs much less than half the price of the Perspective, including shipping and premium ropey cherry veneer. Eventually, I couldn't resist it and bought them, replacing a pair of Salk SongTowers I had for 9 years. That's an example of how buying internet direct from a small manufacturer can cost significantly less than speakers sold through a distributor\/dealer network.