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[jliedeka]

I'm a developer and I don't see cloud-based services as a threat to my job, quite the opposite. A former manager used to call that "continuous employment through technology churn." Reports have to be re-written to use new APIs, etc. The shift will affect platform operators and sysadmins but that probably won't happen overnight.

I still see "cloud" as the latest marketing buzzword for client-server. It's just that the technology is better and networks are faster so client-server isn't as painful.

Jim

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I'm a developer and I don't see cloud-based services as a threat to my job, quite the opposite. A former manager used to call that "continuous employment through technology churn." Reports have to be re-written to use new APIs, etc. The shift will affect platform operators and sysadmins but that probably won't happen overnight.

I still see "cloud" as the latest marketing buzzword for client-server. It's just that the technology is better and networks are faster so client-server isn't as painful.

Jim

This is exactly what I mean to say - when I said IT - I meant us infrastructure folks. I do agree that developers fall under Information Tech and I do agree the future of cloud makes devs jobs even more secure, it's the infrastructure folks like me who should get adapt and rather quickly

Client-Server is correct in the principle, but Cloud is a bit more that just that. What if you don't own the server? What if you don't need to worry to deploy complex remote access systems or have any back-end supporting infrastructure staff at all?

 

[haraldo]

The question, Linux vs Windows is not about cost, it's not about features, it's not about performance, it's not about cloud readiness or anything like this.....
It boils down to one simple thing, control of your business

Which OS do you thing Google employs in their server park? Guess once guys, it does not come from Redmond.....


As far as I know there's not one single Windows server there, simply because they just can't afford it, when I say this it's not about money, but they can't afford not to have control. They gotta have control on time-to-market

So if Google is rolling out a new feature that mandates a change in the operating system kernel, windows is tu-tu, because then they will have to ask Microsoft for this and wait a couple of years and when the feature is there and they can finally build the services.... it's just too late and Google loses business

With an open source model they can get the best developers there is and build what they want in weeks or months into the OS and service layers and beat everyone with this new feature set. This is why Linux and opensource models is a killer for bigger companies that wants to have control.

That's why Linux will go on-and-on-and-on..... Windows future may be more unsecure, though

I'm not saying this because I dislike windows server 2008/2012/2012r2 are insanely good server operating systems but Linux has better models and better future proofing, it'e just so simple as that........

If you want your business to survive you just can't ignore Linus

You're the man Linus!

 

[haraldo]

just to put some more fuel to the fire

Linux Creator Linus Torvalds: I Love My MacBook Air! | Cult of Mac

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Dear OP, How dare you to try to steer this thread into the original topic?!?!?


Best OS is the one which is right tool for job

p.s: This is one old photo you've posted btw

this is more recent one :

 

[haraldo]

I'm a developer and I don't see cloud-based services as a threat to my job, quite the opposite. A former manager used to call that "continuous employment through technology churn." Reports have to be re-written to use new APIs, etc. The shift will affect platform operators and sysadmins but that probably won't happen overnight.

I still see "cloud" as the latest marketing buzzword for client-server. It's just that the technology is better and networks are faster so client-server isn't as painful.

Jim

Cloud is now one of the most misuesed busswords yes...... In a simplified way you can just see the cloud as a deployment option; there are, of course some implications due to this, though.......

Cloud is not a threat to your job but a fantastic opportunity, just play your cards correct

 

[haraldo]

Dear OP, How dare you to try to steer this thread into the original topic?!?!?


Best OS is the one which is right tool for job

p.s: This is one old photo you've posted btw

this is more recent one :

Why is he smiling so much..... without any Linux box in sight?

 

[haraldo]

Linux is going for another big thing .... Kernel Updates without reboot
This is really great things......

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/11/linux_to_get_live_patching_in_320/

 

[Lulimet]

I got bored with Windows so I wiped out Win 7 on my laptop and installed Linux Mint 17.1 and Deepin Linux. I am dual-booting.
I like it so far.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

If you go back in this thread you'd notice I had some issues with Ubuntu server. Since then I got annoyed way too much with it with last straw was 14 update which broken the linuxzfs
Luckily Freenas build on FreeBSD was able to pickup the slack and make my like about 1000% easier.
ZFS Import saved all my disks, volumes and data intact. Plugins (and jails) system on Freenas 9.3 is rock solid and super-duper easy.

Linux on desktop? Not so sure just yet. 8.1 is plenty o fast for me and no rush to replace it (I probably will as soon as win 10 goes gold)

 

[Lulimet]

I have Win 8.1 in my little Zotac box that i use as HTPC.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I have Win 8.1 in my little Zotac box that i use as HTPC.

Surprisingly enough all my HTPC are running Linux (or linux derived) - OpenElec and Amazon Fire (modified Android)

 

[haraldo]

Surprisingly enough all my HTPC are running Linux (or linux derived) - OpenElec and Amazon Fire (modified Android)

I didn't see that coming

 

[rnatalli]

I've been using Linux and OS X for a decade now. My my wife just switched because of the usual Windows 7 slowdown with time and couldn't be happier. For new comers to Linux, I would say go with LinuxMint as it's polished.

 

[haraldo]

Agree that Linux Mint looks polished, but it's said that you can't upgrade ..... so you need to do clean install when upgrading between major releases, is this ture?

A distro that has been rising quickly lately is ElementaryOS, which is Debian based but with a OS X look and feel, quite nice too

 

[Lulimet]

Agree that Linux Mint looks polished, but it's said that you can't upgrade ..... so you need to do clean install when upgrading between major releases, is this ture?

No longer true with Mint. Upgrading from 17 to 17.1 was done through the software update.

 

[haraldo]

No longer true with Mint. Upgrading from 17 to 17.1 was done through the software update.

17.0 to 17.1 is not a major update, but a minor update (as far as I understand), let's see when we do have 18.0. Hope this will be the same

 

[rnatalli]

There's also LinuxMint Debian which is a rolling release never needing a re-install. Another distro that I've been toying with is Manjaro which is based on Arch and entirely rolling release. Although Arch is a difficult distro, Manjaro is very easy to use similar to how LinuxMint makes Ubuntu/Debian easy to use. The Arch fan boys have bashed it because Manjaro delays updates until they're completely stable, but that's true of any binary-based distro as well.

 

[rnatalli]

A distro that has been rising quickly lately is ElementaryOS, which is Debian based but with a OS X look and feel, quite nice too

Bodhi is worth a look too as it's based on Ubuntu and uses the Enlightenment desktop.

 

[haraldo]

I also been using Ubuntu with Cinnamon, which gets you away from that Unity Interface
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable

And check this:
www.bytelinux.com/integrate-linux-mint-to-windows-server-2012-pdc/