Keurig??????

[herbu]

Interesting story, but not so according to Wikipedia

Great... next I suppose you'll tell me there is no Easter Bunny.
Thanks, pal.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Quite so, it's all about convenience but trying to get best cup of coffee. Consistence I could argue with. I get my morning coffee with semi-automatic espresso machine pretty consistently.

We are certainly more about convenience when it comes to coffee, historically, we have always purchased Folger's or Maxwell house depending which one was on sale. We are also looking for speed.

There is one model (B-60) of the Keurig that develops a leak at the base of the unit, this is very common with one model that we actually had, the warranty had just ended but the company gave us a new model for half the retail cost or 69.99 to be exact, with free shipping.

We researched the Keurig's and there seems to be a lot of issues with them so yesterday morning, we decided not to get one.

We went with a K65 Special Edition. The lady at Bed, Bath and Beyond said that they had some issues up until about 9 months ago and now they don't see any being returned. She also said that they don't enforce any time limit on their returns so we could bring it back at any time there is an issue.

Well, that's not the top-of-the-line model, so no worries about P-Dawg getting that one.

Back to the point of our decision to not get one...

I had Carolyn all excited to try one and then I read the reviews and decided not to get one.

We went to the Chair King to look at new patio furniture and she was getting excited about some really expensive furniture. As a diversion, I said "lets go look at the coffee makers next door" and got us out of there. BBB had the 65 for like $40 off and we had a coupon for $20 so I was fine with it.

I have no idea when the new furniture will arrive...

 

[Adam]

Back to the point of our decision to not get one...

I just figured that you'd go for the 70-series (I guess those are now the K75...used to be the B70). That has two more available cup sizes (one smaller, one larger). The first one that I ever bought was the B70 back in early 2007. Good machine, but the pump to move water from the reservoir to the internal tank had a LOT of vibration. Keurig fixed that though, and the newer ones are a lot quieter.

Congrats on the new coffee maker, btw! Please let us know what you think of it.

 

[rnatalli]

If you want an average cup of coffee at a premium price and quickly, get a Keurig. If you want quality coffee, get an old-fashion stovetop percolator like Bialetti or a french press. I personally like Italian espresso coffee like Batista or Gugliemo. Lavazza is okay, but available pretty much everywhere.

 

[Adam]

You can snag San Francisco Bay coffee for about 30 cents/cup on Amazon. I like their Fog Chaser variety.

 

[sawzalot]

You can snag San Francisco Bay coffee for about 30 cents/cup on Amazon. I like their Fog Chaser variety.

Fog Chaser is one of the least expensive yet better tasting coffee available for the keurig, and they actually have some what less plastic involved with their cup, like 97% biodegradable , so I feel just a wee bit better about my footprint,lol.

 

[markw]

As far as leaving a small footprint goes, how about no footprint. These leave none at all. And, we dump the used coffee grounds in the garden to to fertilize it. Plus, it's a lot cheaper than buying coffee in those leetle plastic cups.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

As far as leaving a small footprint goes, how about no footprint. These leave none at all. And, we dump the used coffee grounds in the garden to to fertilize it. Plus, it's a lot cheaper than buying coffee in those leetle plastic cups.

It also removes the convince factor, one still have to refill these pods... Might as well use regular espresso machine ... exactly same amount of labor and effort

Every couple of months I buy few pounds of locally freshly roasted coffee at $7/pound - Cheap, but absolutely great espresso coffee beans. When I buy the, they are still warm from roasting. Keep in air tight ziplock bags and grind it right before brewing. 5 minutes of work is totally worth it for me to make great cup of coffee.

 

[Adam]

These leave none at all.

Sure they do - those plastic and metal cups don't just appear and disappear with no environmental evidence. But, yes, they leave a much smaller footprint than a bunch of k-cups.

 

[Chu Gai]

It also removes the convince factor, one still have to refill these pods... Might as well use regular espresso machine ... exactly same amount of labor and effort

Every couple of months I buy few pounds of locally freshly roasted coffee at $7/pound - Cheap, but absolutely great espresso coffee beans. When I buy the, they are still warm from roasting. Keep in air tight ziplock bags and grind it right before brewing. 5 minutes of work is totally worth it for me to make great cup of coffee.

Source, please?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Source, please?

Source of what? Where I get my coffee from - Buy Coffee - Fresh Roasted Coffee Beans - Nicoletti Coffee
Online price is $8/lbs , but in store it's $7/lbs

 

[markw]

It also removes the convince factor, one still have to refill these pods... Might as well use regular espresso machine ... exactly same amount of labor and effort.

Dunno. don't have an espresso machine but thweaw work for me. A scoop to fill one of 'em and drop it in the machine. Then, after it's brewed, open it, turn it over, tap it out into a contaier (or the garbage, whichever you prefer to not recycle), rinse it out, and I'm ready to go again. Total labor involved (not counting grinding) is maybe 60 - 90 seconds. But, since they come in a four pack I could always fill four at a clip and save even more time.

Plus, I've still got the option of going for any of the liererally hundreds of flavors available in those little plastic cups.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Dunno. don't have an espresso machine but thweaw work for me. A scoop to fill one of 'em and drop it in the machine. Then, after it's brewed, open it, turn it over, tap it out into a contaier (or the garbage, whichever you prefer to not recycle), rinse it out, and I'm ready to go again. Total labor involved (not counting grinding) is maybe 60 - 90 seconds. But, since they come in a four pack I could always fill four at a clip and save even more time.

Plus, I've still got the option of going for any of the liererally hundreds of flavors available in those little plastic cups.

Mark, I am in the same boat - I clean and rinse portafilter and it takes (if I do it slowly) - filling it with coffee, quickly tamper - total time about few minutes..
My point is that your and my methods are much longer than 10 seconds of pop-in new pod and press start

 

[markw]

Yeah, but I can offer my guests different coffees when I choose to avail myself of the eco-disasterous pods. ut,truth be told, if we need a mass amount of generic coffee, the Mr. Coffee is still useful.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

btw: How do you DRM a thing like a coffee pod? | Ars Technica

 

[markw]

Gotta love those greedy bastisches. I sure as hades would not have bought one had that been the case when we purchased ours. I had my eye on those refillable pods before we bought ours.

It looks like the market for used "K-cup" brewers will go up and the new market will shrink considerably.

 

[Adam]

btw: How do you DRM a thing like a coffee pod? | Ars Technica

I loved a comment on a related article of theirs. "Lemme guess: Keurig 2.0 contains a sensor that shuts the machine down if it detects the aroma of actual coffee." - shog9

It looks like the market for used "K-cup" brewers will go up and the new market will shrink considerably.

Maybe. I wonder if they still hold a patent on the brewing process. If not, other companies can just start making brewers without the restriction. Even if that's not the case, I really wonder how difficult it will be to defeat. Unless they use "read once" tags that will only trigger a built-in sensor for one reading (so that you couldn't just take one of a Green Mountain pod and tape it inside the brewer lid to always let it brew), I'm not sure how they'll stop folks. The harder they make it to defeat, the more expensive those k-cups are going to get...and the more folks will stop using them all together.

 

[markw]

I must say, had this been an issue when we were considering purchasing ours, we would not have bought it in the first place. Thankfully, they can't force an "upgrade" on us.

 

[Swerd]

btw: How do you DRM a thing like a coffee pod? | Ars Technica

I just read this. It's really offensive. Earlier I said K-cup brewers are convenient, but after reading that I take it back. It's a convenient way for that company to pick your pocket ! It's only a good deal for people who think buying coffee means paying $5 a cup at Charbucks.

I love good coffee, and the ritual of making it is part of the experience.

The simplest and best way I know to make a single cup of coffee, is to grind beans, boil water, and use a simple Melitta cone filter holder with a #2 paper filter cone in it. Yes, you have to figure out how much ground coffee and how much water to use. But you can do a lot of simple trial & error for the same cost as the inflated price of a carton of K-cups.

Source of what? Where I get my coffee from - Buy Coffee - Fresh Roasted Coffee Beans - Nicoletti Coffee
Online price is $8/lbs , but in store it's $7/lbs

Fresh roasted coffee at that price is good. Nice that you have them nearby. Good fresh roasted coffee can easily be found for double that price.

 

[Dan]

Swerd and I roast our own, usually for 6.50 -7 bucks a pound plus shipping. He uses the technivorm, I use a clever coffee brewer which is similar to the Melita cone except that you can time the amount of brewing you want. I calculated my reusable costs at 11 cents per 12 oz cup. One time costs are the clever coffee brewer about 20 bucks, the roaster 150. Beat that K cuppers. Plus I have freshly roasted coffee done to my exact degree of roast.

The annoying thing about all these K cups, Starbucks etc. is that they have fooled Americans into thinking that coffee is a complicated thing to make. If you can't make coffee, you either failed high school chemistry or ain't trying.