kappa build problems

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jambam

Audiophyte
Yes you wil blow the driver.

Always use a subsonic filter.

Regardless of your power.
I checked the actual response of my x'over w/ REW and it goes -3db from 30 to 20 hz and -10db from 20 to 10hz ..

Is This sufficient , my amp is rated at 800 watts RMS. @ 8 ohms while the driver I am using a dual voice coil VQ wired in series .
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
well considering the price of the drivers I think it's resonably a good option. These aren't 200 dollar drivers. So in essence they are budget drivers.
They are not budget drivers. Low prices today are only the result of it not being a currently manufactured product for several years; either you are buying used or marked down clearance items. And when they were a current product, the 12.1 sold in car audio shops for about $220-$240 each. Even at that price, they are constructed/ built superior to most drivers costing more. In case you did not notice, the motors on the Kappa Perfects are entirely machined, not just cheap low tolerance cast parts. They are still an extremely high SQ woofer today; the only issue is the one I specified earlier in regards to mechanical failure without warning, since they don't give much in the way of warning with reduced SQ or distortion when driven hard, which is not usual, as most drivers start to make all sorts of obvious distortion, etc. when driven even moderately hard, giving the user a clear tip to reduce the level a bit.

-Chris
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
the 12.1 only has an xmax of 14.15mm whereas the vq is 16.75mm, so im sure this has alot to do with it. just doesnt seem like a whole lot of a difference, but im sure they must have beefed up some other internals as well (obviously just looking at the power handling.) Oh well, if i manage to blow this one i will just go for a vq or one of the other recommended ones. For now though I havent ran into any other issues with it, but its doubtful i will watch any action movies again without first turning down the gain a tad.
First, xmax is an expression of where the motor is at a certain percentage of motor and suspension non-linearity. Mechanical excursion is farther away, and in the case of these drivers, much farther (around 10 mm one way more excursion before hitting mechanical limit). Of course, on some questionable quality drivers, the manufacturer may actually use mechanical limit as the stated x-max. And x-max is not consistently reported between all manufacturers. Infinity is very conservative with the rating on the Kappa Perfect drivers, however. The VQ appears to have a more robust suspension to keep the motor from failure excursion rates based on reported failure history. Keep in mind, the Kappa Perfect drivers were intended and are for absolute sound quality applications. They were never intended to win SPL contests.

-Chris
 
C

cicatriz63

Audioholic Intern
just to show, this is the piece i pulled out of the box after i first pulled the sub out. clean rip off both the cardboard and the spyder. it was still partly attached but we removed what was left and put a layer of epoxy about twice as thick.
 

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