JLAudio Fathom f112/f113

K

Knight

Enthusiast
I have quite a bit of experience with the car subs. I built a box for 2 13W7 with 2 JL 1000/1 amps. This is the basic design for their Gotham home sub and I can tell you that they rock the house but more importantly they are very accurate which is not common in car subs, they are usually just loud. My concern with this sub is the price. The drive in the f113 is a 13W7 which sells for about $1000 less if you look at eBay. But the home sub is over $3000. I'm not sure that it is better than other subs in the price range. For me the question is which is better 2 Definitive trinity subs ($3000 each) or one Gotham ($7500). I will say this, I have built boxes for the 8W7, 10W7, 12W7 and 13W7 and they are great sub that you can beat on and get great sound. Go listen to one if you like is and are ok wiht the money buy is, you won't be disappointed. If you are a little picky (like me) come up with a short list and listen to all of them 3 g's is a lot of money so if you are like me and have to save up for a while you wanna get it right. As far building one thats up to you. The fastest way to make a sub sound bad is to put it into a bad box. However if you are good with your hands you can go to JL's website and get the specs to build the right kind of box. If you aren't comfortable with building it I say better to spend $3000 to get it right than $1000 to get it wrong and ask yourself if the amp you get will be as good as the one JL gives you with the room EQ circuit. There was a good review of the sub in Home Theater April 2007. In the end you gotta just use your ear though it seems hard to find a dealer. The conflict is that you can't go to most car dealers to see the sub cause they don't carry it and if they do the people selling it will talk about it like it was a car sub and the demo will be loud and basically useless and most high end places will kinda turn their nose up at is because it comes from a line of subs that targets a different crowd.
 
nasd90

nasd90

Audioholic
"...The drive in the f113 is a 13W7 which sells for about $1000 less if you look at eBay..."


Incorrect.

The Fathom f113 is not a 13w7, it's a variation of the 13w7... much more goes into the Fathom than just the subwoofer itself. Check out the video on their website, because I don't have time to type it all out for you.

http://home.jlaudio.com/multimedia_pages.php?page_id=15

Nick
 
K

Knight

Enthusiast
Actually what I tried to say but typed wrong is that the driver in the f113 is a 13W7 and sells for less than $1000 on eBay. Both points are true. You can get a 13W7 for around $600 and the driver in the f113 is a 13W7. JL does note that they are different with respect to the home and car version, however the video doesn't tell you all the reasons why. JL changes the magnet and the voice coil. The basket, cone, rollover, spider and the coils mechanical design (not the electrical characteristics) are all the same. This comes to me direct from the JL rep. While the car version is just a driver the home version is different because it comes with an enclosure, the amp (specially designed to perfection) and processor electronics. While I agree that slapping a 13W7 in a box and hooking it up to an amp is not the same. To answer the original question I have heard all of the car W7's and they are loud and accurate the ladder is usually left out in the car world. I heard the Gotham and it's about as good as they come I'm just net sure that it is better thaan 2 lesser sub that are as accurate at lower volumes. It would be a hard comparison to make. If you are looking at something like the f112 it could be close. It depends on what you think makes a good sub. If accuracy is you biggest consern the REL might be the best but I didn't think they rocked the house like the JL which is almost as accurate.
 
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