Look at this comparison. The M series kills it on black level and color gamet is pretty much the same as the P series:\nhttps:\/\/www.rtings.com\/tv\/tools\/compare\/vizio-m-series-quantum-2019-vs-vizio-p-series-quantum-x-2019\/845\/848?usage=11114&threshold=0.1\n\nMan thanks! That's why I said maybe Vizio's M series. 80O nits plus the 90 Deming zones are very good over a lot of units out there that cost a lot more. The Vizio M can be had for 1k right now. For what I need and I don't do Gaming., That Vizio M sits as the best 4K UHD HRS for the money hands down. I saw where it sat with all of them in ratings, Samsung, Sony, LG all them are Stealing peoples money for not much more than you get. I'm gonna have try and do a look see if I can at a BB store. It better Convinced me paying 1500 more for a OLEG. I can see myself setting 8' from a 65" 4K with 800 nits. like said at my age my old eyes plus I wear Bifocal glasses Vizio's QP with 2k nits I'd more than likely would have to put my sunglasses on also. lol but really I get why 2k nit are awesome, for brite rooms and all. I'm looking for more nits to match a much better UHD,Dolby vision Experience! As you know Probably? I have, GOT 8th season on 4K UHD and it's Impressive in 4K Viewing on my Vizio V55". I can't wait to watch GOT 8th season best ever! that last line goes out to all the haters on GOT 8th season. On a Vizio M or P 65"! with 800 or 2K nits! I want no! I need more Cowbell! lol. But really Bro thanks a lot for posting up those links. Cleared up lot! If I may say something, My Son has Sony's top dog 75" it has A beautiful picture, but for me? I really didn't think it was that brite for a OLED. He got it at BestBuy paid over $7500 plus not Counting taxes. That's a lot of money for not much Cowbell in my book.