jaxvon said:
I think what Mtry is getting to here is that people go around posting their personal experience and parading it as fact. There's nothing wrong with sharing opinions or listening experiences, but it should be very obvious as so. When trying to make any claim about "better" without a true scientific test, then all you've gotta do is say "I think" or "I believe" or "To my ears". The problem is, too many people simply post an opinion without noting it as so, and then it ends up becoming fact down the line, and that's just bad information (portrayed as such). Most people here will value another person's opinion on audio gear, so long as it stated as an opinion and not as a "fact".
It may surprise you to know that I don't disagree with your statement that what I've posted thus far in this thread is indeed just my opinion. It is my belief, or my opinion, and nothing more... to that I would agree without reservation. It is, however, my opinion based upon selling high fidelity audio/video in an audio salon to put myself through college. It is my opinion as a lifelong guitar player. It is my opinion given a 30+ year passion for music, and a 25+ year fascination with audio/video gear. However, as you point out, it is without a doubt wholly and solely my opinion.
If you look back to my very first post in this particular thread you will undoubtedly note that I began the first sentence of my first paragraph with “IMHO”… that does still stand for “In My Humble Opinion” does it not? In the middle of the second paragraph of that same post I again state “in my opinion”.
In j_garcia’s first post of this thread he states “IMO, the 4801 is a solid receiver too, but my integrated cost 1/3 the price and actually yields as good or better musical performance.” I believe that “IMO” does indicate “In My Opinion”? Yes? In his post of 1:17 p.m. yesterday he states “I felt my integrated sounded better than my receiver…” Note the use of “I felt”. In his post of 4:16 P.m. yesterday he states “I'm just relaying thoughts and opinions about what I hear; ignore it or do as you like with it.” Please indicate how either of us have attempted to “parade our personal experience as fact” jaxvon?
In my post of 04-20-2006, 08:32 PM I discussed power supplies and output transistors, and I asked the reader to make a direct comparison themselves. I did not provide an absolute and definitive decree… I asked the reader to do their own research and homework, and make the final determination themselves. In my post of 7:24 p.m. yesterday I again challenge the reader to test my assertions, and I offer a number of possible units to go out and listen to and make comparisons against mass-market AV receivers. Again, I’m not telling them to not think, not listen, not try it for themselves… but just the opposite.
I would point out that in re-reading every post connected to this thread I have yet to see a single documented set of facts. Everything I’ve read, from all sides of this discussion, appears to me to be opinion.
Unfortunately, contrary to jaxvon’s statement that “Most people here will value another person's opinion on audio gear, so long as it stated as an opinion and not as a ‘fact’ “… I do not feel particularly valued for my opinions, even though I believe that I have made every attempt to note them for what they are… my personal observations and opinions.
Do me a favor and climb down off your high horse and follow your own advice. You’re statements are simply your opinions (unless and until you provide documented scientific analysis to the contrary), as are mine.
