Ok that makes some sense. I had to back and look at your pics. I had just absently assumes it was on concrete. So now what? Lol
A creative option might be to place it outside of the immediate HT area, but still in the open room?
(Just helping brainstorm.)
Boy, for a single sealed sub solution, that'd do it!*cautiously leans in, looks around
Single sealed sub... might as well go all in!
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No guarantees, but I think most people would agree that using multiple subs might be better than one bigger sub.
It is definitely nice to go 120hz crossover with 2 subs. I can only do 100hz crossover with one sub, because I get localization starting at 110hz.
Didn't mean to diss. Just throwing out some thoughts. Keep things more interesting.
I'm at 200Hz with 10 subs. No localization whatsoever. Just joking (mine is at 120Hz).
Oh wow, yeah, I don't think I can swing that. I'd be willing to go up to $1,500 if I knew it was going to be THAT good. Here are the three I am considering at the moment in no particular order. Keep in mind I mostly want a sub that sounds best with music, then video games and movies.*cautiously leans in, looks around
Single sealed sub... might as well go all in!
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I moved the sub to that location the other night and it did not perform well at all, but I had not run Audyssey. I'll move it again and run Audyssey to see what happens.
That’s definitely important. Especially if audyssey is trying to pull down a peak, then you place the sub where there isn’t a peak, audyssey is still pulling down that frequency or frequencies.
Localization has more to do with frequency than driver size. With your speakers I think a higher crossover probably sounds best, but makes it more localizable. 80 hz and down is the number I see most often to avoid it.
Mossy, if you haven't tried it before, I would recommend as an experiment the Subwoofer Crawl. It's crude, but an effective technique for understanding some of the LF Acoustics in your room. All rooms are different. so what works for you, there, with that equipment might not work in the next room you install it in, much less for Joe down the street.
Interestingly, I’ve seen various(but not a great deal) posts by customers quoting SVS reps that imo gave advice that was odd, to later follow forum advice to better results. Anyway...
I read about the subwoofer crawl the other day, and I do plan on doing that. I need to get a longer sub cable first!Mossy, if you haven't tried it before, I would recommend as an experiment the Subwoofer Crawl. It's crude, but an effective technique for understanding some of the LF Acoustics in your room. All rooms are different. so what works for you, there, with that equipment might not work in the next room you install it in, much less for Joe down the street.
The idea of putting your Sub at you Main LP and then crawling around the room listening to the sound near where the Sub might be placed is based on the reflections of those soundwaves. You should, in theory, be able to find a location where the sub sounds great via the crawl... move the sub to that location, and hear it exactly the same when you sit at your LP. (Acoustics are fun like that sometimes.)
I suggest this for no other reason than just being able to hear how the LF Soundwaves change as you move around the room. Hell, I would go up and listen on the balcony, too!
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His reply that I quoted is easily taken out of context. The SVS rep did agree that sub size wouldn't make a difference.
Audyssey set the xover for the fronts at 100 Hz and the center at 80Hz, but I switched the fronts back to 80Hz and it sounds pretty good. If the fronts are at 100Hz and center at 80Hz, does the sub get crossed over at 100Hz or 80Hz?
I think that'd be a great exercise for you! Ryan isn't kidding about trying the balcony either. You never know where the best spot is until you experiment a little.
That's a good question. One I would like to know the answer to myself!
I could certainly manage two subs if one of them is placed on the balcony
Lol. Both!
