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Trebdp83
Audioholic Spartan
“And now, a word from one of our more credible sponsors.”
"Let our rigorous testing and reviews be your guidelines to A/V equipment – not marketing slogans"
ryanosaur
Audioholic Overlord
I don't disagree, and I stand by my earlier statement.
This isn't the first time I have found myself questioning a review by Theo, either. In both instances, I challenged the review and encouraged discussion about the fact that it didn't match up with most people's assessment.
You can choose to participate in the discourse meaningfully, or you can just stand about making noise.
bombadil
Junior Audioholic
It appears you feel you are the arbiter of what is of value on this forum and what is not. Yes, I could say nothing and if this article had appeared in any of dozens of other publications i would just ignore it. In this case I pointed out that this review is not supported by fact and that I expected more from Audioholics. You apparently think that is just noise and you're certainly entitled to your opinion, we all have one.
Replicant 7
Audioholic Samurai
Bro! Where you been!! On something like this, we need you man!!“And now, a word from one of our more credible sponsors.”
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Trebdp83
Audioholic Spartan
“Want to know what comes between me and my Calvins? Nothing. Want to know what comes between my speakers and the hardwood floor? Felt pads from Dollar Tree”
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mns3dhm
Audioholic Intern
I've seen these reviewed favorably in Stereophile and I see the respected PSB speaker brand is using these on their T600 tower speakers ($7999 I think) so there's probably something to this. I also think manufacturers in China and elsewhere will produce knockoffs at a fraction of the price sooner rather than later.
ryanosaur
Audioholic Overlord
Nope. I do not.
All I did is challenge you to say something more meaningful than "BS;" to add to the discourse rather than stick your head in the sand.
Again, we are not in disagreement.
NINaudio
Audioholic Samurai
https://isoacoustics.com/isoacoustics-speaker-isolation-technology/
Manufacturer's claims for this product are:
- tighter bass
- greater sound clarity and openness
- improved soundstage
- provides a three-dimensional image of natural spatial sound
bombadil
Junior Audioholic
Didn’t realize my head was in the sand, should have checked with you before posting. In the meantime I think I’ll continue to point out advertisements masquerading as reviews.Nope. I do not.
All I did is challenge you to say something more meaningful than "BS;" to add to the discourse rather than stick your head in the sand.
Again, we are not in disagreement.
done
ryanosaur
Audioholic Overlord
Absolutely!
You read my reply. I think their claims, and Theo’s, are hogwash.
Beyond that, I don’t go around telling everybody that they need to pursue what I did. If asked, I share what I did above and make recommendations that might achieve it less expensively.
The end.
Now, how am I going to isolate my DIYs?
AcuDefTechGuy
Audioholic Jedi
Oh for $1800/pair, I would still be harsh on them.
There are much easier and more economical ways to reduce vibration.
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Danzilla31
Audioholic Spartan
You do know this site has to make money right? They have to put out some fluff pieces to keep the site open. I think the average member here can understand that and discern an advertisement peice like this from the real articles.
And for newbies it's why we have these forums to break down the articles so we can seperate the good from the marketing
davidscott
Audioholic Spartan
Yeah what he said. $1000 is a lot of cash to decouple your speakers from the floor.
panteragstk
Audioholic Warlord
I feel like I get 99.99999% of the function at a fraction of the price...
https://www.svsound.com/products/soundpath-subwoofer-isolation-system
davidscott
Audioholic Spartan
Nice and I would buy these if I felt any need to raise my speakers. And I might in the future.I feel like I get 99.99999% of the function at a fraction of the price...
https://www.svsound.com/products/soundpath-subwoofer-isolation-system
ryanosaur
Audioholic Overlord
Just not as pertty.I feel like I get 99.99999% of the function at a fraction of the price...
https://www.svsound.com/products/soundpath-subwoofer-isolation-system
They are effective, though.
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jeffca
Junior Audioholic
Having the SVS Sub feet involved in two systems in my house, I can attest to their efficacy. Also, using Auralex GRAMMA's under my giant bass amp, they work very well, too.
If you were to use both the SVS feet and GRAMMA's in concert, for 1/4 the price of the IsoAcoustics feet, they'd most likely work better in most circumstances. Of course, they won't look as cool.
That being said, I'm not denigrating IsoAcoustics. I use their Aperta stands between my sub stacks and L/R KEF LS50's in my home theater. They do a good, not great job isolating the subs from the LS50's (they weren't actually designed for that). To make them great, I added Sorbothane hemispheres to the top and bottom feet of the Apertas. Problem solved. The LS50's do not vibrate at all from the Rythmik subs below them.
And, yes, I am using SVS Sub footies.
What is not mentioned in the article, though, is that most of the improvement is not with the speaker, but with the floor underneath it. Having your speakers or subs vibrating the crap out of the floor that supports them is much less than optimal. That is why you want to isolate your speakers: it's the floor, dummy!
While my home theater is in a finished basement that has a concrete floor with thick carpeting, I still use the SVS feet because they absorb extraneous vibrations from the sub cabinets. That energy needs to go someplace. Better the feet than back into the cabinets.
When I push the sub stack from it's top sub, the whole stack wobbles a bit. Much like a skyscraper moving in the wind, that ability to dissipate energy is a good thing.
If you were to use both the SVS feet and GRAMMA's in concert, for 1/4 the price of the IsoAcoustics feet, they'd most likely work better in most circumstances. Of course, they won't look as cool.
That being said, I'm not denigrating IsoAcoustics. I use their Aperta stands between my sub stacks and L/R KEF LS50's in my home theater. They do a good, not great job isolating the subs from the LS50's (they weren't actually designed for that). To make them great, I added Sorbothane hemispheres to the top and bottom feet of the Apertas. Problem solved. The LS50's do not vibrate at all from the Rythmik subs below them.
And, yes, I am using SVS Sub footies.
What is not mentioned in the article, though, is that most of the improvement is not with the speaker, but with the floor underneath it. Having your speakers or subs vibrating the crap out of the floor that supports them is much less than optimal. That is why you want to isolate your speakers: it's the floor, dummy!
While my home theater is in a finished basement that has a concrete floor with thick carpeting, I still use the SVS feet because they absorb extraneous vibrations from the sub cabinets. That energy needs to go someplace. Better the feet than back into the cabinets.
When I push the sub stack from it's top sub, the whole stack wobbles a bit. Much like a skyscraper moving in the wind, that ability to dissipate energy is a good thing.
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jeffca
Junior Audioholic
As I stated in a post way down the line, there are two things at play here:
• You want to not have your floor vibrating because of your speakers. That offers a lot of the sound pollution if it's not concrete.
• Regardless of the floor, absorbing excess cabinet energy so that it doesn't reflect back into the speaker is a good thing.
You can get this done as well or better for much less money, but it just won't be this pretty.
lovinthehd
Audioholic Jedi
So this helps in contrast to using spikes but not bungees? Okay. I'd like to hear more from Gene since he "heard" such massive improvements....but I'd like more to see some sort of AH objective testing as to audibility.
ryanosaur
Audioholic Overlord
Not Gene… Theo.
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