I'm officially worth half of what i was

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Mort Corey

Senior Audioholic
JMO, but silver is largely an industrial type metal (look at the dive platinum has taken in the last year) and tends to increase in value when it's used up. If you're talking about silver coins, they're pretty darn heavy for the value they hold. I used to use a 100oz silver bar as a doorstop....it was kinda cool and an interesting conversation piece.:D

Read something the other day (not verified) that from the top of the market in 1929 it took until the 50's to reach that point again....now that's long term.

Mort
 
MUDSHARK

MUDSHARK

Audioholic Chief
Read something the other day (not verified) that from the top of the market in 1929 it took until the 50's to reach that point again....now that's long term.

Mort
That refers to market indexes and is a true statement. However, unless one bought in 1929 and stopped buying until the 1950's one made money even during that worst financial period of the twentieth century.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
Been doing ok myself. Since the Tech bubble burst and 9/11 I have only invested in long term CD's and good yield money markets. I stopped contributing to my 401K thank god. So I have avoided most of the worst.

All my CD's are staggered...
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
Been doing ok myself. Since the Tech bubble burst and 9/11 I have only invested in long term CD's and good yield money markets. I stopped contributing to my 401K thank god. So I have avoided most of the worst.

All my CD's are staggered...
Does our company match contirbutions to your 401k? I don't know, the whole idea behind regular contributions to a 401k is that you take full advantage of dollar cost averaging. On an after tax basis, cd's aren't likely keeping pace with inflation. Steady, unemotional, diversified investing in the market is the way to go in my opinion. If your up there in the years, or you know you need the money in the short term, than yes, CD's may make sense. Other than that, I think you could be really missing out depending on your age and goals. Just my 2 cents.

I didn't even go into the office today. I took my daughter to school, came back and told my wife to get out of her work close into something comfy and I took her out antiquing. We had a great lunch at this small place in Dade City and had great afternoon. It was nice to get away from the doom and gloom for awhile.
 
Geno

Geno

Senior Audioholic
I'm 18 months away from retirement. I took a 100K whippin' on my 401K, but am afraid to pull out now, hoping things bounce back as fast as they plunged (wishful thinking). I sure hope the new Prez appoints a special prosecutor for the CEOs and government "watchdogs" that sat around with their thumbs up their **** while this fiasco got going. I feel like the love slave in a Greek Army battalion... Better get me a Grey Goose martini and throw on some Steely Dan real loud
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
Does our company match contirbutions to your 401k? I don't know, the whole idea behind regular contributions to a 401k is that you take full advantage of dollar cost averaging. On an after tax basis, cd's aren't likely keeping pace with inflation. Steady, unemotional, diversified investing in the market is the way to go in my opinion. If your up there in the years, or you know you need the money in the short term, than yes, CD's may make sense. Other than that, I think you could be really missing out depending on your age and goals. Just my 2 cents.

I didn't even go into the office today. I took my daughter to school, came back and told my wife to get out of her work close into something comfy and I took her out antiquing. We had a great lunch at this small place in Dade City and had great afternoon. It was nice to get away from the doom and gloom for awhile.
Antiquing:confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOJ23b-am8Q
 
MUDSHARK

MUDSHARK

Audioholic Chief
Good post Chris. I couldn't have said it better myself. There is no way in hell cd's are beating inflation which sure is not the number the government is reporting. People close to retirement should be invested less than 50 percent in equities in any event.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I'm 18 months away from retirement. I took a 100K whippin' on my 401K, but am afraid to pull out now, hoping things bounce back as fast as they plunged (wishful thinking). I sure hope the new Prez appoints a special prosecutor for the CEOs and government "watchdogs" that sat around with their thumbs up their **** while this fiasco got going. I feel like the love slave in a Greek Army battalion... Better get me a Grey Goose martini and throw on some Steely Dan real loud
I think you might be surprised by the reslilience of the market. I doubt we'll bounce back in weeks, but I bet in less than a year, barring anything major happening, things will be turned around. We've already seen that the market can make up ground just as quickly as it loses it.

The economy has really stalled, however, and that will make things tougher, especially if we end up with an Obama presidencey and dem congress. That's our big fear here at our company and the view is shared by just about all the analysts I've spoken with.

I think we've also learned out lesson in the housing market... finally. I like the idea of many liberal mantras... they all sound wonderful and I wish most of them could be true, but real life... reality... has a way of interering with the eutopia. I think we've learned that home ownership is not for everyone and is not something to be taken lightly. I wish everyone could own a home... I do. The reality, however, is the not all can, nor deserve the right to have that responsibility. If you purchase a home with no down payment, and the value of the home drops, what is your incentive to keep paying when you have no skin in the game? Holding personal honor and ethics aside, why would you keep paying on something that is no longer worth what you purchased it for. That's why so many people just walked away from their mortgage. They have no real investment in their home. Basically, they rented it for a couple of years. I think we've learned that counting welfare as income towards the qualification of a loan was not the best practice. I talked to one of the players in the local lending business in my area and he said that it's not that people can no longer afford their payment, they just don't want to pay for a house that is no longer worth what they bought if for I think reasoning behind requiring 10 and 20% down payments on a mortgage in most cases looks to be sound in retrospect. It prohibits a chunk of the population from getting a mortgage, but unfortunately, it goes a long way to insulating us from financial turmoil.
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
Why ?

put in 200k$ last week thinking asbout another $100k tomorrow

I din't mean to p*ss someone off with this post. Just readjusted some retirement accounts.

Oh well! - SIGNING OFF *** AUDIOHOLICS has been nice while iit lasted!
 
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aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
I din't mean to p*ss someone off with this post. Just readjusted some retirement accounts.

Oh well! - SIGNING OFF *** AUDIOHOLICS has been nice while iit lasted!
I'm sorry.... what happened here??

Are you the one who just gave me a red chicklet? I'm not quite sure why I deserved that, but I certainly didn't do anything to provoke that.
 
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itschris

itschris

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I din't mean to p*ss someone off with this post. Just readjusted some retirement accounts.

Oh well! - SIGNING OFF *** AUDIOHOLICS has been nice while iit lasted!

Hey Cow... what's all that about?

If someone has stuff to say, it can be done with the right tone and context. I'm assuming someone had something sh*tty to say about your post.
 
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Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I sent him a PM earlier because I didn't want to hijack, but it looks like people are posting about this. I sure hope that he hasn't decided to just leave for good.
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
I recieved a red chicklet too and left this: Sheesh why give me a red chicklet

Check your CP's for people that have posted in this thread, I never gave anyone a red chicklet btw. Something fishy going on here.
 
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Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Ouch. If MC carpet bombed the group with red chicklets, then he probably is leaving. That would be too bad if that really is the case. I thought that he was a good guy, and handing out red chicklets didn't seem to be his style.
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
Ouch. If MC carpet bombed the group with red chicklets, then he probably is leaving. That would be too bad if that really is the case. I thought that he was a good guy, and handing out red chicklets didn't seem to be his style.
I agree that does not seem like MC, something is not right here. Did you receiver one as well?
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I recieved a red chicklet too and left this: Sheesh why give me a red chicklet

Check your CP's for people that have posted in this thread, I never gave anyone a red chicklet btw. Something fishy going on here.
I got the same thing. I've never given anyone a red chicklet in this area or any other.

I guess someone maybe thought he was boasting or something and hit his rep. I don't recall exactly when I read that post of his, but I didn't get the impression he was bragging or trying to make some kind of point to anyone other than participating in the discussion.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I agree that does not seem like MC, something is not right here. Did you receiver one as well?
No, but my first post was just today regarding MC's post. BTW, if you got yours after his last post (which was his last activity), then it wasn't from him.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
No, but my first post was just today regarding MC's post. BTW, if you got yours after his last post (which was his last activity), then it wasn't from him.
hmmmm... the red chicklet is new... probably within the past hour.
 
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