How close are we to WWIII?

[Dude#1279435]

Well, I think even our CIA stated well over a million died in Russia. Why are they sending all their air defenses to Moskow, I wonder.

Another waste of life war. The more videos I watch the less I think it's all Russia's fault. Russia may have tired of being provoked by NATO. Plus the aid to Ukraine was stolen.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Does feel like we're moving in the direction of 'nukes as a deterrent'.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Another waste of life war. The more videos I watch the less I think it's all Russia's fault. Russia may have tired of being provoked by NATO. Plus the aid to Ukraine was stolen.

OK, this makes no sense to me.

In what way was Russia being provoked by NATO? Ukraine being accepted into NATO just wasn't happening, so that's not it. Other former Eastern Bloc countries joined NATO because they were afraid of Russia, a fear which was clearly justified. Regardless, if Russia felt provoked, that still gives them no right to Ukrainian territory.

If aid to Ukraine was stolen, who stole it and from where was it stolen?

 

[Dude#1279435]

OK, this makes no sense to me.

In what way was Russia being provoked by NATO? Ukraine being accepted into NATO just wasn't happening, so that's not it. Other former Eastern Bloc countries joined NATO because they were afraid of Russia, a fear which was clearly justified. Regardless, if Russia felt provoked, that still gives them no right to Ukrainian territory.

If aid to Ukraine was stolen, who stole it and from where was it stolen?

I heard the aid never made it. Whether or not true I dunno.

I think your probably right. Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO because that would give them an extra layer of protection. Provoked probably meant NATO knew they were invading and sitting on the border.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Iran will no longer exist!

Per the headline from Breaking Points. Looks like they're doing a decent job of existing.

 

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OK, this makes no sense to me.

In what way was Russia being provoked by NATO? Ukraine being accepted into NATO just wasn't happening, so that's not it. Other former Eastern Bloc countries joined NATO because they were afraid of Russia, a fear which was clearly justified. Regardless, if Russia felt provoked, that still gives them no right to Ukrainian territory.

Just like US had no right to go into Venezuela or starve the Cubans out of oil. Two wrongs never make a right.

I would really like to know the motif behind Russia going into Ukraine but from a Russian’s perspective to gain a better understanding of what this crap is all about.

 

[ski2xblack]

I would really like to know the motif behind Russia going into Ukraine but from a Russian’s perspective to gain a better understanding of what this crap is all about.

You might start with that Alexander Dugin guy, a political philosopher and sort of contemporary Rasputin who has Putin's ear.

Aleksandr Dugin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In addition to the more colorful narratives of Dugan, some of it is practical military necessity expressed from Putin and Russian officials. Putin knows his country's history of invasion by Napoleon and Hitler, and the old Warsaw Pact borders are far more contained defensible than present borders which are more expansive and vulnerable. NATO really has expanded well into the former Warsaw Pact states, and as you know they have used that encroachment explicitly as the excuse for their 'special military operation' into Ukraine. This ill fated plan reflects Dugan's prescription to reestablish Russian influence via conquest.

Russia is also up the proverbial creek without a paddle demographically, so maybe Putin realizes it's now or never.

Plus he seems like an old mob boss with senility. Similar to our guy that way.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Not a real surprise I guess but reported Trump talked with the JCOS and is likely planning an all out war. The MOU was done to buy America time to resupply, or that's the theory.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Not a real surprise I guess but reported Trump talked with the JCOS and is likely planning an all out war. The MOU was done to buy America time to resupply, or that's the theory.

Resupply? That will take some time for sure. And very expensive. Don't think they were ready for this event.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Resupply? That will take some time for sure. And very expensive. Don't think they were ready for this event.

I remember one date as late as Aug 18th for resupply to war. Seems like the oil reserves threshold lol.

 

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Resupply what exactly? The oil reserves? Hasn’t happened. Resupply smart munitions? Hasn’t happened because China isn’t shipping the US rare earth metals required to manufacture them. What exactly is being resupplied? It’s another ill thought out plan just like wrapping up Iran in 2 weeks. It ain’t going to happen.

I know my next statement isn’t going to be popular but I tell it as I see it. The US words, agreements can’t be trusted anymore period. They lie like a cheap rug and play word games and use semantics to get around something the US doesn’t agree with. No honor anymore at all.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Resupply what exactly? The oil reserves? Hasn’t happened. Resupply smart munitions? Hasn’t happened because China isn’t shipping the US rare earth metals required to manufacture them. What exactly is being resupplied? It’s another ill thought out plan just like wrapping up Iran in 2 weeks. It ain’t going to happen.

I know my next statement isn’t going to be popular but I tell it as I see it. The US words, agreements can’t be trusted anymore period. They lie like a cheap rug and play word games and use semantics to get around something the US doesn’t agree with. No honor anymore at all.

The quick search I did stated Trump got 172 million barrels in emergency oil reserves. The global total of 400 million. I dunno where it came from, though I suspect through deals.

Also the US started with 415 million barrels of reserve oil, and now we are at 325 million barrels. It is claimed we are producing oil nearly as fast as we are using it.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Trita Parsi says gas prices didn't go real high because there was already a large amount of global reserves. Also plan on Israel attacking Iran around October since there an election coming up and Netanyahu could face jail.

 

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The quick search I did stated Trump got 172 million barrels in emergency oil reserves. The global total of 400 million. I dunno where it came from, though I suspect through deals.

Also the US started with 415 million barrels of reserve oil, and now we are at 325 million barrels. It is claimed we are producing oil nearly as fast as we are using it.

These figures differ from what I heard from Larry Johnson, ex CIA analyst. Someone quite close to Larry that works in the US oil industry said the figures are much lower. The question I pose is why was Trump so quick to do a 180 and sign the MOU?

 

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Trita Parsi says gas prices didn't go real high because there was already a large amount of global reserves. Also plan on Israel attacking Iran around October since there an election coming up and Netanyahu could face jail.

Listening to this. One thing Trita didnt mention in this segment is that China took itself off the oil market which allows part of the oil glut. This oil glut is only temporary as the filled tankers that were parked in the strait left the strait. The majority of tanker flow is heading towards the middle east and Japan, some to the Europe but very few if any sailing to the North America.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Listening to this. One thing Trita didnt mention in this segment is that China took itself off the oil market which allows part of the oil glut. This oil glut is only temporary as the filled tankers that were parked in the strait left the strait. The majority of tanker flow is heading towards the middle east and Japan, some to the Europe but very few if any sailing to the North America.

Can't remember if it was Trita but someone said they think China is taking their time about buying more oil and want to see how the wars play out. These guys go into a lot of detail on the oil reserve numbers. Ignore the title as they often are meant to attract viewers.

 

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Can't remember if it was Trita but someone said they think China is taking their time about buying more oil and want to see how the wars play out. These guys go into a lot of detail on the oil reserve numbers. Ignore the title as they often are meant to attract viewers.

Yep. I got caught on the titles too but they are still highly informative nevertheless.