How close are we to WWIII?

[mtrycrafts]

... It’s almost as though Trump didn’t think any of this through . . .

Its obvious that he didnt think this through at all as the Strait of Hormuz is biting him in the ass. Lol

Does he ever think things through? Not capable of that task.

 

[highfigh]

That does not make it the US's business.

So, the attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the 66 American hostages taken in 1979- those weren't the US's business?

 

[highfigh]

Most of those rockets have been aimed at US facilities in those countries. Regardless, how are they supposed to make it clear that "it needs to stop"? Most of them don't have sufficient military resources to contribute effectively. Not that adding more rockets to the conflict is likely to make matters better.

Of course, it would be easy to make it stop - the US and Israel can stop any time they want. Iran will follow suit.


Nobody is going to (or could) muzzle Trump. Besides, if a president needs a muzzle, it's clear that he is unfit for the office.

While the level of intelligence within both houses can be debated, the GOP controls both. It's up to them to rein Trump in - and they are far too craven to stand up to him.

Do you really think Iran will stop, considering the fact that they provide so much support for Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and other terrorist groups?

Maybe someone could roll up a newspaper with a pipe inside, to swat him on the beak.

 

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So, the attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the 66 American hostages taken in 1979- those weren't the US's business?

The attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis are a direct response to US strikes into Iran. Yes, the Americans that were held hostage was the green light to go back in 1979 but not now. That came at the heels of the American puppet government of the Shaw of Iran being corrupt and executing dissidents by the secret police. What happened back then is not a ticket into entry of Iran in 2026. Based on your logic, we Canadians have the right to go down and burn the White House back down again ...some 175 + years later for trying to invade us back then.

 

[highfigh]

The attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis are a direct response to US strikes into Iran. Yes, the Americans that were held hostage was the green light to go back in 1979 but not now. That came at the heels of the American puppet government of the Shaw of Iran being corrupt and executing dissidents by the secret police. What happened back then is not a ticket into entry of Iran in 2026. Based on your logic, we Canadians have the right to go down and burn the White House back down again ...some 175 + years later for trying to invade us back then.

As a part of the British Empire at that time, why would Canada be exempt from attack since it was already involved? It's not as if Canada was autonomous and if Canada does it on their own now, they would be at war with the US on their own because I'm pretty sure the King wouldn't agree with that particular decision, since Canada is still a Consitutional Monarchy. That would be similar to a US state declaring war on another country.

 

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As a part of the British Empire at that time, why would Canada be exempt from attack since it was already involved? It's not as if Canada was autonomous and if Canada does it on their own now, they would be at war with the US on their own because I'm pretty sure the King wouldn't agree with that particular decision, since Canada is still a Consitutional Monarchy. That would be similar to a US state declaring war on another country.

Like Iran? Im sticking to my statement that what happened in 1979 does give the US to engage 47 years later.

 

[lovinthehd]

Came across this and they keep talking about presidential orders to fire the missiles....gives me the creeps.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Do you really think Iran will stop, considering the fact that they provide so much support for Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and other terrorist groups?

Maybe someone could roll up a newspaper with a pipe inside, to swat him on the beak.

Well, they would probably like the bombing of their territory to stop. So, if Israel and the US stopped, I'm pretty sure they will too. If they don't, Israel and the US can just start it again.

Now, what happens after the bombing stops is a different question. If the Iranian regime was on the fence about continuing their nuclear weapons development program before, they will be greatly motivated to continue now.

The only possible way to have any chance of stopping that will be - you guessed it - boots on the ground.

As for their support for the terrorist groups you mentioned, well I don't have an answer to that. One thing is certain though - starting this war was not even remotely a good idea.

 

[GO-NAD!]

This is a long-ass article that I would summarize as - the world economy is on the edge of a potential catastrophe.

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[highfigh]

Like Iran? Im sticking to my statement that what happened in 1979 does give the US to engage 47 years later.

And nothing they have done in that 47 years matters?

 

[highfigh]

Well, they would probably like the bombing of their territory to stop. So, if Israel and the US stopped, I'm pretty sure they will too. If they don't, Israel and the US can just start it again.

Now, what happens after the bombing stops is a different question. If the Iranian regime was on the fence about continuing their nuclear weapons development program before, they will be greatly motivated to continue now.

The only possible way to have any chance of stopping that will be - you guessed it - boots on the ground.

As for their support for the terrorist groups you mentioned, well I don't have an answer to that. One thing is certain though - starting this war was not even remotely a good idea.

October 7, 2023- who did what?

 

[Jeepers]

October 7, 2023- who did what?

Hamas...no doubt about it. Israel and the US with their intelligence agencies and satellites 'supposedly' were completely unaware of the Hamas preparations, even after the multiple warnings by the unarmed female Israeli surveillance soldiers were ignored ?

 

[GO-NAD!]

October 7, 2023- who did what?

I know what happened. Now, can you draw a straight line from that to this? I see something tangentially related. Still no justification.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Hamas...no doubt about it. Israel and the US with their intelligence agencies and satellites 'supposedly' were completely unaware of the Hamas preparations, even after the multiple warnings by the unarmed female Israeli surveillance soldiers were ignored ?

That should remind folks of the period before 9/11 when an FBI agent brought forward of strange events. Poor communications between agencies, resulted in 9/11.

 

[highfigh]

Hamas...no doubt about it. Israel and the US with their intelligence agencies and satellites 'supposedly' were completely unaware of the Hamas preparations, even after the multiple warnings by the unarmed female Israeli surveillance soldiers were ignored ?

Write the details of the event, I wasn't asking a rhetorical question or whatever preceeded it, who did what on that day, who was killed & how, and what happened to the survivors of that day?

 

[highfigh]

I know what happened. Now, can you draw a straight line from that to this? I see something tangentially related. Still no justification.

As I posted, not a rhetorical question.

 

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And nothing they have done in that 47 years matters?

Thats correct. Its non of the US business.

 

[highfigh]

Thats correct. Its non of the US business.

Terrorist attacks on US bases that exist at the request of other countries? Our business. Terrorist attacks on US interests? Our business. Who has the rest of the world traditionally called if they had a problem? Have you paid attention to what European leaders say about whether they can deal with direct attacks by Russia? Iran doesn't need to fund the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah or other terrorist groups but they do because they all share their ideology, even if its not complete agreement.

Like it or not, the US does help other countries when most don't lift a finger. As much as Trump is effing things up and as belligerent as he can be, we'll still be there for our allies.

 

[Mikado463]

Thats correct. Its non of the US business.

one more time...........'F' Iran

 

[NMG]

As much as Trump is effing things up and as belligerent as he can be, we'll still be there for our allies.

I would’ve agreed with this sentiment about a year and a half ago, but I no longer do. I simply don’t believe that the USA under this current administration has any inclination to assist allies, or do anything morally “good” unless there is something in it for them.

I’m not naive in believing that historic actions were done out of the goodness of the USA’s heart. There is always self interest. That’s fine. But at least the self interest intersected with some common decency and an appreciation that successful relationships require wins for both sides.

That’s not the case with this iteration of the Trump administration. They’ve treated historic allies with such utter contempt that I no longer trust their motives and I certainly don’t believe they will be there for them. IMHO, if Trump could trade the sovereignty of all of the USA’s allies for an acceptable sum of money, he would. I see absolutely no goodwill or inherent sense of doing what’s “right” in his actions. He simply cannot be trusted.