How close are we to WWIII?

[TLS Guy]

Yes - but it seems to me, that although Article 5 declares all members go to war with any invader of any member - it does not consider the case where one member invaded another...

The treaty only covered what the member nations considered a possible situation - this circumstance is not covered!

If the US invaded Greenland, is the US automatically at war with itself?

The EU+Britain is now mobilising - changing their defence posture to one based on no dependence on the USA... this will take a few years to put into place, once that is in place, I expect a new NATO (by another name) is likely to be negotiated - one that may include Canada, but is unlikely to include the USA. (and yes that puts Canada in a complicated situation...)

Trump won't be here forever and more likely than not gone before the end of the year. I think the charter is actually clear, that if a NATO member went rogue and attacked another it would be considered an attack against the rest. In the event Trump was allowed to carry out his threat, which I doubt, the US would be fighting the rest of NATO. In any event I can not imagine Congress not putting the breaks on before it came to that. Also there are strong relationships between the military top brass on NATO and I highly doubt any senior NATO commander would obey any order to attack another NATO country. More likely they would eliminate Trump pronto. In the unlikely event that Congress went along with it, the military would likely intervene and we would be under military rule until a new Constitution could be approved with more robust guard rails. But of course there are a multitude of ways this could play out.

 

[Alex2507]

I'm hoping sanity will prevail

This is so f^%&ed up. I'm actually scared to make jokes anymore.

Sanity has left the conversation. Good guys don't wear masks.

Stage coach bandits wear f^%&ing masks.

 

[dlaloum]

Trump won't be here forever and more likely than not gone before the end of the year. I think the charter is actually clear, that if a NATO member went rogue and attacked another it would be considered an attack against the rest. In the event Trump was allowed to carry out his threat, which I doubt, the US would be fighting the rest of NATO. In any event I can not imagine Congress not putting the breaks on before it came to that. Also there are strong relationships between the military top brass on NATO and I highly doubt any senior NATO commander would obey any order to attack another NATO country. More likely they would eliminate Trump pronto. In the unlikely event that Congress went along with it, the military would likely intervene and we would be under military rule until a new Constitution could be approved with more robust guard rails. But of course there are a multitude of ways this could play out.

Depends on how successful their purge of military officer ranks has been...