Home Theater Review's 10 Best Audiophile speakers includes no Internet companies

majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
I guess nobody bothered to read the disclaimer at the bottom of the article.

Disclaimer:
These lists are designed to start discussion and provoke thought on the topic. Please feel free to post speakers that you think could have made the list and or should have made the list below. We look forward to hearing from you as we had dozens of other speakers that we could have posted here but couldn't because this is a 10 speaker list.
 
Quickley17

Quickley17

Audioholic
You're right. I didn't see the disclaimer at the bottom of the list. But I still have a hard time believeing that that list was "designed" in any way. I think it was thrown together and a disclaimer was attached to the end to try and dismiss the idea that there was no critical examination of anything at all.

Just what I think.
 
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Nuance AH

Audioholic General
Oh and this site doesn't advertise either :rolleyes:

Oh wait it does... does it mean it can't be trusted either? :eek:
I said magazines, so... :rolleyes:

Having spent time at RMAF, CES, & CEDIA, talking and drinking beer with the writers (RMAF is the best for communicating IMHO), I would respectfully disagree. Nobody is getting rich writing audio reviews, in reality only the publisher of the biggest magazines and e-zines can make it as a career. The average writer gets between $100-500 an article (most are under $200, especially the e-zines with a few actually being volunteer). Except for those very few that are independently wealthy, they all have regular jobs. I'd bet the Admin for this site would agree whole-heartily.

What they are influenced by is the brands/models they've actually reviewed. No one writer can experience but a sample of everything that is available. Therefore, they pick the ones they've spent time with.
No problem, you can disagree. I still hold by by statement. It doesn't apply to every single magazine publication out there, but many. YMMV. Oh, and who said anything about the writers getting the money brought in by the advertising dollars? You think the presidents of the companies are going to just give that money to them? I'd be willing to bet the writers of many of these publications are told what they can and cannot say, especially if some of the review choices are large advertising contributors. It's cool that you disagree, but frankly I think you're missing the big (and obvious) picture. To each their own.
 
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Nuance AH

Audioholic General
Well not only that but the list was ridiculous. 10 speakers only; where price seemed to be no object? Yeah lots of insight went into that write up. Didn't even bother listing the "dozens of other speakers" that weren't posted.

Might as well of listed the 10 best sandwiches he's ever eaten.
LOL! :D
I guess nobody bothered to read the disclaimer at the bottom of the article.

Disclaimer:
These lists are designed to start discussion and provoke thought on the topic. Please feel free to post speakers that you think could have made the list and or should have made the list below. We look forward to hearing from you as we had dozens of other speakers that we could have posted here but couldn't because this is a 10 speaker list.
HAHA, good point. :)
 
ozmedia

ozmedia

Audioholic
Bad Karma

Too bad. It's a good list. However, I'm surprised that not one Internet company (e.g. Salk, Aperion, etc.) made the list.
Internet sales of speakers are seen as the bane of the industry by those who sell speakers. Some twit will get a quote from a local dealer who sells product that's available on the Internet (bad mistake for a dealer), find it online, buy it and have issues down the road, then call the first dealer and expect HIM to resolve the issue because the Internet supplier cannot/does not support service. I usually tell those guys to contact the manufacturer directly for support, in most cases the manufacturer won't accept the warranty as it was sold by a grey market reseller and not an authorized dealer.

(Yes I know Salk has good support, but they are far from the norm for Internet sales of speakers)

I've seen every mag in the industry do reviews like this, and they will change every year or even between staff of the magazine, most are a result of a manufacturer simply buying them pizza and offering them a few t-shirts to review their products. "Wow, they are a fantastic company!"

It's about as effective as reading and actually believing results of Gallup polls, or any poll for that matter.

RBH has made their favorite speaker list more than once, it has been listed as their product of the year and yet no mention here at all. Best speakers from WHICH selection? Take it with a grain of salt, it's just marketing.
 
Patrick_Wolf

Patrick_Wolf

Audioholic
I guess nobody bothered to read the disclaimer at the bottom of the article.

Disclaimer:
These lists are designed to start discussion and provoke thought on the topic. Please feel free to post speakers that you think could have made the list and or should have made the list below. We look forward to hearing from you as we had dozens of other speakers that we could have posted here but couldn't because this is a 10 speaker list.
I did read that, and we are discussing it. :D

And the general thought is that the topic/article is stupid. What's there to discuss when the people discussing it haven't heard all the speakers listed. Other than agreeing or disagreeing with the list, or suggesting others that should be listed. Oh wait, why bother, cause it's a 10 speaker list only.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I said magazines, so... :rolleyes:


I know of no audio magazine that doesn't advertise. And what's teh difference between a magazine add or an add on web page when it comes down to trusting the writers? Its all the same..know what I mean? :cool:
 
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Nuance AH

Audioholic General
I know of no audio magazine that doesn't advertise. And what's teh difference between a magazine add or an add on web page when it comes down to trusting the writers? Its all the same..know what I mean? :cool:
You sure about that? I am not in that industry, so I cannot say for sure. It's possible, of course, but I doubt Internet sites take home as much revenue as magazine publications, thus less advertisers and thus less pressure to dance around the truth (in the articles). In many instances that I have seen, Internet sites review a brand, then start advertising for them after they are confident said product is of high quality.

I guess no one can be sure, but based on what Ive learned I have no issue putting my opinion out on the line. If I am wrong, I'm wrong...but I honestly don't think I am.

Either way, the moral of the story is to take ANYTHING that you read, whether in a printed magazine or on the internet, with a grain of salt. It's not smart to purchase solely based on someone else's opinion.
 
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