Help with YAMAHA rxv659

[Edde]

HI everybody ! I have he YAMAHA 659 and i have a lots of questions.
Well.... I use it only in 2ch STEREO with TWO ALESIS MONITOR ONE in front output A, so.... i have been tryied to equalize the sound by MANUAL SETUP and I can HEAR NO diference when I changing the gain in the frequencies.
Why i cannot hear diference when i adjusting?
I only can feel diference when i adjusting in TONE CONTROL.

So, i really apreciate help. Thanks!

Edde

 

[jcPanny]

Yamaha setup

Edde,
I have a similar Yamaha, the HTR-5860. On my receiver the Manual setup allows you to adjust the speaker level and distance. These settings are for Surround sound and are irrelavant for 2 channel. Just make sure the level and distance for the Left and Right speakers is the same.

My model allows you to do an auto EQ with the Mic or a manual EQ of the center channel. If the Manual EQ you are using is for the center, this is why you are not hearing any changes. The front tone controls apply to all channels including the mains.

For 2 channel listening, I recommend the pure direct mode which turns off all audio processing and video circuitry to lower the audio noise floor. If you are unhappy with the performance in this mode, try adjusting the speaker height, distance from the wall, toe in, etc.

 

[Edde]

Thank so much!

Edde,
I have a similar Yamaha, the HTR-5860. On my receiver the Manual setup allows you to adjust the speaker level and distance. These settings are for Surround sound and are irrelavant for 2 channel. Just make sure the level and distance for the Left and Right speakers is the same.

My model allows you to do an auto EQ with the Mic or a manual EQ of the center channel. If the Manual EQ you are using is for the center, this is why you are not hearing any changes. The front tone controls apply to all channels including the mains.

For 2 channel listening, I recommend the pure direct mode which turns off all audio processing and video circuitry to lower the audio noise floor. If you are unhappy with the performance in this mode, try adjusting the speaker height, distance from the wall, toe in, etc.

Thank you so much for the help.
Sorry for my bad english, but i can understand everything that u said to me.
Really thanks!

So... I´ll try to explain something...
I had a Pioneer VSX 4900s, a old one, and I worked with it in my studio for years until it broken. Now I have the YAMAHA rx-v659, I know it has a REAL sound ( NATURAL SOUND) .I suposed that Pionner that I had reproduce a colorized sound ( fake sound) but it so beatufull, with deep bass and crisp hi frequencies. now in the YAMAHA I miss this frenquencies that I used to loved.
The question is:
Now I hava a true natural sound or the pionner that I had was a great amp ?
Was a good atitude bought the yamaha 659 ?

Thaks so much!

Edde

 

[jcPanny]

Receiver sound

Edde,
The newer Yamahas are very neutral and trasparent which most people prefer over older equipment with rolled off highs. It could be that the new Yamaha allows you to identify a poor quality recordings or the limitations of your speakers.

I wouldn't worry about the EQ settings for 2-channel listening. Give yourself some time to get used to the new sound, and experiment with speaker positioning. If you are still not happy with the sound of a modern receiver, look into a tube integrated amp like the Onix SP3.

 

[Edde]

Thanks and one more thing.

Edde,
The newer Yamahas are very neutral and trasparent which most people prefer over older equipment with rolled off highs. It could be that the new Yamaha allows you to identify a poor quality recordings or the limitations of your speakers.

I wouldn't worry about the EQ settings for 2-channel listening. Give yourself some time to get used to the new sound, and experiment with speaker positioning. If you are still not happy with the sound of a modern receiver, look into a tube integrated amp like the Onix SP3.

Thanks JcPanny! You´re right! now I can feel the diference between a god and a poor recordings. The speakers that i have is good, it´s a ALESIS monitor one. I understand when you told me about a VERY NEUTRAL SOUND.
Anyway I really miss the basses that i used to feel in the old reciver.
Can I put a subwoofer to feel the low frequencies?
Can I use this only in 3 channels ( left, right and subW ) ???

Thanks one more time for you.

Edde

 

[Edde]

Thanks and one more thing.

Edde,
The newer Yamahas are very neutral and trasparent which most people prefer over older equipment with rolled off highs. It could be that the new Yamaha allows you to identify a poor quality recordings or the limitations of your speakers.

I wouldn't worry about the EQ settings for 2-channel listening. Give yourself some time to get used to the new sound, and experiment with speaker positioning. If you are still not happy with the sound of a modern receiver, look into a tube integrated amp like the Onix SP3.

Thanks JcPanny! You´re right! now I can feel the diference between a good and a poor recordings. The speakers that i have is good, it´s a ALESIS monitor one. I understand when you told me about a VERY NEUTRAL SOUND, in the older receiver all of sound sounds good becouse it has a strong Gain db EQ.
Anyway I really miss the basses that i used to feel in the old reciver in the same speakers ( ALESIS).

Can I put a subwoofer to feel the low frequencies?
Can I use this YAMAHA only in 3 channels ( left, right and subW ) ???

Thanks one more time for you.

Edde

 

[Beachboy2]

Edde, a subwoofer will bring your audio world to life. If you like the old heavy bass sound. Get a powered sub for $150 or so, more if you like, and that old booming bass will be back.

 

[jcPanny]

Add a sub.

Edde,
I would also recommend adding a powered sub to your two channel system. This will make it a 2.1 system and you can use the settings on the receiver to set the crossover to 60 or 80 Hz depending on the frequency response of your monitors.

In the entry level price range, a lot of products produce boomy, sloppy bass. For $200, check out the Onix X-sub. It only has an 8" woofer, but it will produce tight, clean bass down to the 30 Hz range which should be adequate for music.

Also, FYI, your Alysis Monitors are designed for near field listening (your ears are a couple feet from the speaker). That doesn't mean that they don't work well as bookshelf speakers, but they are designed for a different purpose.

 

[Edde]

Edde,
I would also recommend adding a powered sub to your two channel system. This will make it a 2.1 system and you can use the settings on the receiver to set the crossover to 60 or 80 Hz depending on the frequency response of your monitors.

In the entry level price range, a lot of products produce boomy, sloppy bass. For $200, check out the Onix X-sub. It only has an 8" woofer, but it will produce tight, clean bass down to the 30 Hz range which should be adequate for music.

Also, FYI, your Alysis Monitors are designed for near field listening (your ears are a couple feet from the speaker). That doesn't mean that they don't work well as bookshelf speakers, but they are designed for a different purpose.

Thanks jcPanny,

Can I use a passive subwoofer in my yamaha in 2.1?
Or I´ll have 2.1 system only with an active sub bass?
I thought to buy a good speaker to connect in yamaha´s sub amplificated output and use as a sub woofer, what do u think?
Or is better to have a active subwoffer conected in NON amplificaded yamaha´s output to work in 2.1???

This is my monitor http://www.alesis.com/products/monitor1_mk2/
And this frequency response

Thanks a lot!

Edde

 

[jcPanny]

Sub connection

Edde,
You will need an active/powered sub for use with your Yamaha receiver. A powered sub has its own amp and its own power plug.
You can use a digital coax cable to connect from the LFE or Sub Out on the receiver to the input on the sub.