Thanks for your help, I don't work at FS but at an independent store, have access to energy, jamo and a few other lesser products. I can get the RC30's for about 300.00 more but prefure the look of bookshelf on stands. Would the 30s be alot better for the room? Also one more question, I havn't got the receiver yet and can choose between yamaha and pioneer (we sell both) Im thinking the yamaha 661 because of the reveiws on here, but also like the pioneer 917 or 1017. I know pioneer doesn't have the upconverting, but I will only be running my dvd (HDMI) and cbl box (HDMI) though the receiver. Will both receivers get audio through HDMI ? which one is the better receiver to choose. Thanks for all your help!