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[Gizmologist]

Sometimes

I do not advocate taking extreme measures all the time HOWEVER when someone telegraphs by their actions that they feel some entitlement to impinge their personal lack of decorum on society then some method needs to be used to indicate there will be a price to be paid.

You have the right to listen to your music. You do NOT have the right to make me listen to it. After I ask you nicely ONCE to turn it down, the next call is to the police.

If you deliberately park in such a way as to knowingly take up two spaces, don't be surprised of a shopping cart finds it way into your paint job.

Each intrusion into the rights of those around you will result in some from of retribution until you learn to behave and function as a member of society. To that end, the lessons may be expensive.

IMO, justice would have been well served if the ********** that torched the cab and stores during the Laker "celebration" had been soaked with flaming gasoline from the exploding gas tank on the car. I guarantee they would not do it again.

If there is no price to be paid that is on a par with the crime, there is no reason to expect the criminals to ever start obeying the law and acting like responsible members of society.

If we do nothing, we deserve the consequences of our inaction.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I do not advocate taking extreme measures all the time HOWEVER when someone telegraphs by their actions that they feel some entitlement to impinge their personal lack of decorum on society then some method needs to be used to indicate there will be a price to be paid.

You have the right to listen to your music. You do NOT have the right to make me listen to it. After I ask you nicely ONCE to turn it down, the next call is to the police.

If you deliberately park in such a way as to knowingly take up two spaces, don't be surprised of a shopping cart finds it way into your paint job.

Each intrusion into the rights of those around you will result in some from of retribution until you learn to behave and function as a member of society. To that end, the lessons may be expensive.

IMO, justice would have been well served if the ********** that torched the cab and stores during the Laker "celebration" had been soaked with flaming gasoline from the exploding gas tank on the car. I guarantee they would not do it again.

If there is no price to be paid that is on a par with the crime, there is no reason to expect the criminals to ever start obeying the law and acting like responsible members of society.

If we do nothing, we deserve the consequences of our inaction.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that we do nothing when we witness/experience others' misdeeds. I just don't think causing hundreds, possibly thousands, of dollars damage to somebody's car because they straddled 2 parking spots "is on a par with the crime". A note on the windshield passes the message.

 

[its phillip]

I'm not a fan of keying cars or slicing tires or what have you...I'm partial to these:
http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/give.html

At my old job, we had a duty truck. Whenever somebody parked like a jerk or in two spots, I would park the truck right next to them and then just use my pov for the rest of the night. Now if I see somebody like that and I'm angry enough I just spit on the windows >_>

Another thing that really makes me mad is jerks who DO NOT RETURN THEIR SHOPPING CARTS. There are freaking cart collector spots all over the parking lot, but people are too damn lazy to use them. It's not as bad (but still annoying) when they put them up on a curb so they don't roll away, but I hate it when they just leave them in the parking lot. On windy days I have seen many runaway carts just slamming into people's cars :/

 

[Seth=L]

I don't feel it's necessary to point out one's fault then tag with with a stereotype to get what you feel is a deserved jab into them. There are other ways to make them understand their behavior is unwanted without making it a racist thing. The other factor, which I'm sure you considered, is the retaliation you could face if you should choose to factor in racism into your comments towards them. I know that can get some people instantly out of control.

 

[markw]

I don't feel it's necessary to point out one's fault then tag with with a stereotype to get what you feel is a deserved jab into them. There are other ways to make them understand their behavior is unwanted without making it a racist thing. The other factor, which I'm sure you considered, is the retaliation you could face if you should choose to factor in racism into your comments towards them. I know that can get some people instantly out of control.

Most people that pull this stuff know they are wrong and simply don't give a flying fluck about what others think.

And, even if you do say something and they are of a "sensitive" class, they will most likely try to use it to their advantage and accuse you of being racist, anti-semitic, or anti-whatever they are.

You should see the reactions I get when I politely mention to the single, healthy people parking in the "Parents with Toddlers only" and "Handicapped" spots in the local food mart what they have done. Sometimes I get a "Waddaya gonna do about it" but mostly they just glare. Strangely enough, virtually all (so far) have been of one race. I'm not the only one to notice it. They know they are wrong and are just dying to start something.

Ergo, the preception of the stereotypes is perpetuated, at least to anyone else who witnesses their behaviour.

 

[wshuff]

Each intrusion into the rights of those around you will result in some from of retribution until you learn to behave and function as a member of society. To that end, the lessons may be expensive.

Yep. Of course, that goes for keying cars and destroying tires. Unfortunately, "He was parked in two spots and asking for it" is no defense.

 

[highfigh]

I don't care.....
But I have to go move my truck....I'm taking up two spaces.

Make sure the mirrors in front of your car are clean so you can see yourself clearly.

 

[highfigh]

This all reminds me of an A-hole at the grocery store last week. The car next to me parked really close to my door, but I got in without touching it. As I was carefully backing out, a weapons-grade A-Hole walked across the front of my truck, then between it and the car next to me. I WAS STILL MOVING! His daughter followed about 6' behind and I guarantee that if I had brushed him or his daughter, I would have been sued to hell and back. I stopped as soon as I realized he wasn't going to (immediately) and made some choice comments. He never looked toward me- he just kept walking like he was a zombie. His daughter looked like she would get her butt handed to her if she didn't follow closely enough and when I looked forward again, another girl was standing, waiting for me to back out.

She must be the only sensible one in that family and I feel sorry for the kids.

 

[Shock]

I wasn't taught to be prejudice, I learned all of mine while constantly working around people from other countries.

I think the problem with today's society is we're taught that we aren't supposed to listen to stereotypes, when in fact nearly all of them are true for a large majority. This in turn makes us uncomfortable when we encounter them in our everyday life. People are so afraid to speak their mind because some people might label them as racist or prejudice. These are usually the same people who live in a cocoon and have no clue about the real world. We shouldn't be taught that stereotypes are false , only to find out they are so factual. We should be taught to seek out those who break the stereotype and look at the positives those people bring a particular race or creed.

Like I said I wasn't taught to be prejudice, but to be lied to for decades, only to learn the truth can be a tough pill to swallow.

Living in Canada where we are supposedly a "multicultural" country has definitely had a negative impact on my life. One only has to step foot into our flagship city or Toronto to see the problem with multiculturalism. Our immigration laws were so lax everybody and their mother could get citizenship to this country. Toronto and it's surrounding area has become a haven for criminals to operate, and these criminals are predominantly black and asian. A few years ago the Toronto sun released a census stating that 51% of the city was of asian origination. 51% of the city wasn't even from this country. The largest city in Canada is made up of more immigrants than native Canadians. Something is wrong with this picture. Recently a Korean family 3 houses down from this one moved in, and no matter the complaints from ALL of their neighbours will not clean up their yard. One of them went as far as to cut their lawn for them because it had grown so high it looked like a dump. Yesterday when I went for a run there was a washer and dryer sitting on their lawn, it is still there today and a couch has joined it. I live in one of the nicest areas of my city and would like it to stay that way.

If this is what multiculturalism gave Canada I don't see how anyone can say it's a good thing.

 

[Patrukas777]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "weak" people. Physically? Emotionally? Intellectually?

Weak minded...emotionally, and a lot are intellectually

 

[GirgleMirt]

I wasn't taught to be prejudice, I learned all of mine while constantly working around people from other countries.

I think the problem with today's society is we're taught that we aren't supposed to listen to stereotypes, when in fact nearly all of them are true for a large majority. This in turn makes us uncomfortable when we encounter them in our everyday life. People are so afraid to speak their mind because some people might label them as racist or prejudice. These are usually the same people who live in a cocoon and have no clue about the real world. We shouldn't be taught that stereotypes are false , only to find out they are so factual. We should be taught to seek out those who break the stereotype and look at the positives those people bring a particular race or creed.

Like I said I wasn't taught to be prejudice, but to be lied to for decades, only to learn the truth can be a tough pill to swallow.

Well, that's the problem with prejudice and stereotypes, you tend to judge individuals before you really give them a chance... Not because someone is X, that they'll automatically be like xxxx... Even if you think that there's a good chance that they are xxxx, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt, and should disregard stereotypes/prejudices towards that person and give them a fair chance... You must judge/evaluate each person individually, if you really act or judge based on your prejudices/stereotypes, then that's what makes you a racist... (Even if a stereotype was true for 90% of X, it would still be false for 10%...)

But then, as you say, some 'stereotypes' are truer than others... Take something like racial profiling. After 911... Or if 50% of the crimes are committed by a group making 10% of the population... Statistically, it would make sens to keep this number in mind... But... It wouldn't be politically correct...

Living in Canada where we are supposedly a "multicultural" country has definitely had a negative impact on my life. One only has to step foot into our flagship city or Toronto to see the problem with multiculturalism. Our immigration laws were so lax everybody and their mother could get citizenship to this country. Toronto and it's surrounding area has become a haven for criminals to operate, and these criminals are predominantly black and asian. A few years ago the Toronto sun released a census stating that 51% of the city was of asian origination. 51% of the city wasn't even from this country. The largest city in Canada is made up of more immigrants than native Canadians. Something is wrong with this picture. Recently a Korean family 3 houses down from this one moved in, and no matter the complaints from ALL of their neighbours will not clean up their yard. One of them went as far as to cut their lawn for them because it had grown so high it looked like a dump. Yesterday when I went for a run there was a washer and dryer sitting on their lawn, it is still there today and a couch has joined it. I live in one of the nicest areas of my city and would like it to stay that way.

If this is what multiculturalism gave Canada I don't see how anyone can say it's a good thing.

That's another thread... I feel pretty much the same, and am not a 'pure laine' as they say. (Only 1/2 'real' canadian). But, the "canadian" in a couple years will be no more than minorities becoming majorities, the 'canadian' canadian will simply will simply become rarer and rare because of low birth rate. Most 'white canadians' families have like one kid (even if they're very comfortable financially, many consider kids cost lot of $$$), if you compare to immigrants, you often see 3-4 kids often if if they have very little income... So lots of minorities having more babies, poor "canadian canadians" birthrate, in major cities ethnics will be the big majority, only in region will there remain 'pure' canadians... Somewhat sad imho, as I do think that when Canada becomes mostly immigrants who in many case sadly do not want to integrate themselves to the canadian culture, do not hold the same values, etc. something is definitely lost...

Canada is becoming more and more just a melting pot of immigrants...

 

[Patrukas777]

Well, that's the problem with prejudice and stereotypes, you tend to judge individuals before you really give them a chance... Not because someone is X, that they'll automatically be like xxxx... Even if you think that there's a good chance that they are xxxx, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt, and should disregard stereotypes/prejudices towards that person and give them a fair chance... You must judge/evaluate each person individually, if you really act or judge based on your prejudices/stereotypes, then that's what makes you a racist... (Even if a stereotype was true for 90% of X, it would still be false for 10%...)

But then, as you say, some 'stereotypes' are truer than others... Take something like racial profiling. After 911... Or if 50% of the crimes are committed by a group making 10% of the population... Statistically, it would make sens to keep this number in mind... But... It wouldn't be politically correct...



That's another thread... I feel pretty much the same, and am not a 'pure laine' as they say. (Only 1/2 'real' canadian). But, the "canadian" in a couple years will be no more than minorities becoming majorities, the 'canadian' canadian will simply will simply become rarer and rare because of low birth rate. Most 'white canadians' families have like one kid (even if they're very comfortable financially, many consider kids cost lot of $$$), if you compare to immigrants, you often see 3-4 kids often if if they have very little income... So lots of minorities having more babies, poor "canadian canadians" birthrate, in major cities ethnics will be the big majority, only in region will there remain 'pure' canadians... Somewhat sad imho, as I do think that when Canada becomes mostly immigrants who in many case sadly do not want to integrate themselves to the canadian culture, do not hold the same values, etc. something is definitely lost...

Canada is becoming more and more just a melting pot of immigrants...

I agree with some of what you said in regards to stereotypes. The way I see stereotyping is the brains way of categorizing and/or making sense of something. It's as if its programmed within us. One of my majors in college was psychology, and thats kinda how it was explained to me. I see nothing wrong with it either (the part I agree with you now comes to play). Initially, we are quick to identify something, but the good old saying, "Don't judge a book by its cover," holds true. Thats where we should hold off on our initial thought of something, and wait to see if we were correct or not. Once we have a better understanding of what is truly before us, then we can react.

For those of you who believe you can stop stereotyping all together...I disagree with you. No one can...its part of how are brain processes information to make sense of what we see.

Sorry..if I'm diverting from what you guys were talking about...haha I've been drinking, and I don't remember what thread I'm in. All I know is stereotyping was brought up

 

[MatthewB.]

I recall many years ago when I was in college, my mother and I had gone somewhere and my mom is about to park her car in crowded lot when some doucher cuts in front of my mom and takes her spot. My mother calmly rolls down her window and tells the man that was her spot. His response, "then drive faster C**T. " I got out of the car and asked the guy to please repeat what he just said, and he does. He's just about to say the C word again and I straight up kick him right across his head, knocking him clean out. Guess he learned a valuable lesson, never call the mother of a 2nd don black belt the C word. I can count all the times I have used martial arts in the real world on one hand (stopped a rape once) but don't ever call my mom the C word.

Another time I was in a grocery store and this child about 7 or 8 is just yelling all these profanities at his mother, I mean the F bomb and MF and the mother is just standing there, at this point I walk up to her and say, "if your too ashamed to spank that brat of yours, I'll be more than happy to take him across my knee and give him a proper spanking. You'd think I was the monster with how the mother acted, luckily a few other customers sided with me and told her that she should let me beat some manners into that kid.

 

[j_garcia]

All this guy has to do is put up a "No loitering" sign and have the guy removed if he continues to "hang out" at the store all day.