True, but when AV123 was building them they were largely vaporware and/or a bait-and-switch scam. (Ironically Hugh started building these primarily to help out some people whom he had referred to AV123 for the LS9's and felt personally responsible for their loss - how's that for being a standup guy?) DIY kits are for a completely different market, and these aren't an easy build. Even the people go ended up getting these from AV123 (at a price that barely even covers cost of parts) generally got them with a bunch of veneer problems, various QA issues, and sans the promised cabinet damping.
From the standpoint of a pre-built speaker that you can trust you'll receive and not get ripped off, these ARE new.
