getting stereo out from pre-amp out on pioneer VSX-522-K

[t3hw4h]

I'm going to try it out tonight, I'll let you know. I wouldn't be adding powered speakers later.

btw in this set up - would it make more sense to set the pre-amp out to Surr Back or Height?

 

[slipperybidness]

I'm going to try it out tonight, I'll let you know. I wouldn't be adding powered speakers later.

btw in this set up - would it make more sense to set the pre-amp out to Surr Back or Height?

It would make more sense to me to put it as SB. But, using the setup like this would not have really made sense to me while I was purchasing the equipment

But, I'm guessing that the EXT. Stereo stands for Extended Stereo and it would give the stereo signal to all multi-channel speakers. If that is the case, then I don't think it should matter if it is SB or FH.

 

[Grador]

To comment on the other possible solution, if your TV does have RCA outs it's quite possible they will not have adjustable volume, so that still may not work as a solution here.

It would be quite important to check on that before hooking them up.

 

[t3hw4h]

So I've got it working with EXT STEREO on, the sub is at about 1/4 of the way volume and the A2's are just over 3/4 way volume.

The sound is muddy though, I'm guessing all I'm doing is using the amp on the A2's and not reaping the benefits of the receivers amp much.

There is no RCA output on the TV, optical audio only oddly.

At this rate I think I will just connect them as they were, to the main L/R out with very little volume on the A2's, the quality seemed way better.

 

[adwilk]

So I've got it working with EXT STEREO on, the sub is at about 1/4 of the way volume and the A2's are just over 3/4 way volume.

The sound is muddy though, I'm guessing all I'm doing is using the amp on the A2's and not reaping the benefits of the receivers amp much.

Your thinking is correct.. you're not using the Pioneer as an amplifier at all- its only sending a signal to the amplifier in the A2's.

One thing that might be worth mentioning- it would be possible to slightly the mod the A2's to bypass the internal amplifier. I'm pretty sure the xovers are all passive and the mod would be as easy to reverse as it would be to make. This would allow you to hook up the speakers directly to the pioneer.

 

[t3hw4h]

it would be possible to slightly the mod the A2's to bypass the internal amplifier

Interesting thought.. I took the back off the speaker, would I just wire direct to the yellow/black wire?

 

[adwilk]

Without knowing exactly whats goin in that setup I can't say for sure based on your post.... hmmm..

Here's how I would go about it.. the right speaker can be left alone.. it already has a passive input... You would hook that up directly to the Pioneer amplifier as the right channel.

On the left or powered speaker- I would unhook the speaker terminals that are the designated "output". You won't use those to run to the other speaker. I would use those terminals as the "input" though. I would unhook the main speaker leads from the built in amp and hook them up to the "now" inputs. I would then hook it up like a normal passive speaker to the left channel of the pioneer amplifier...

Does that make any sense at all? I can be more in depth I'm sure.

 

[markw]

My thinking on this as it now stands is that by usig one of these "ehnanced stereo" modes to trick your outputs into outputting a signal, it's putting out a signal all right, but not a "pure" two channel stereo signal like one would want for music listening. Just some sort of DSProcesed channels that are meant to augmemt the other channels.

 

[slipperybidness]

My thinking on this as it now stands is that by usig one of these "ehnanced stereo" modes to trick your outputs into outputting a signal, it's putting out a signal all right, but not a "pure" two channel stereo signal like one would want for music listening. Just some sort of DSProcesed channels that are meant to augmemt the other channels.

Could be. On my Elite, when I use 7 channel stereo mode, it just gives me full signal to all speakers. That is why I suggested he try this. But could be different on the low end model.

 

[markw]

On my Elite, when I use 7 channel stereo mode, it just gives me full signal to all speakers.

That would be 7 channel mono, wouldn't it?

On my Denon, when i use "5 channel stereo", it "sort of" spreads out the two channels over te five channels in a way that if fills the room with sound. Granted, it's more of a amorphous sound as opposed to true pin-point stereo, but it does the job for a party mode.

 

[slipperybidness]

That would be 7 channel mono, wouldn't it?

On my Denon, when i use "5 channel stereo", it "sort of" spreads out the two channels over te five channels in a way that if fills the room with sound. Granted, it's more of a amorphous sound as opposed to true pin-point stereo, but it does the job for a party mode.

I was trying to not get too technical on it. I think that it gives all the left speakers the left signal, all the right speakers the right signal, and mixes left and right to feed the center. That's what it sounded like to me.

Or it might be 7 channel mono. I only use it for instances when I'm up and about the house and want quantity of music over quality (not too often).