""FORBIDDEN TERRITORY""

[mulester7]

.....""CROSS-WIRED LAND""....(report coming from DEEP in the forests and bowels of Cross-Wired Land, from which few have returned).....guys, I gotta' talk low, so lean close....I "cross-wired" the FULL-RANGE speakers (2) I got from Bob over a year ago on the Mac 2200 normal stereo, not strapped, last night, and relatively cranked them using the Mac 2200 for four hours....hitting "play" on the CD remote to start the entire content anew again and again....at the end of four hours, I had to scoop the melted speaker remains from the floor with a wide, called "flat", Grain shovel/scoop....just kidding....the first two hours I felt of the components of the amp sections and they were much cooler that when I had the same speakers hooked by, ahem, "correct", wiring laws of parallel initiation...what figures into the mix, is that the Mac 2200 does not have output posts to recognize a 16 ohm load, have posts for 2, 4, and 8 only...the amp section is looking for 8 ohms of resistance, and 12 ohms of resistance is out there lurkin' in the bushes....12 becaise Bob's speakers I got a year ago are rated by the industry standard of ohmage presented at 1000 hz to be 6 ohms of resistance....anyhow, I have less ohmage than the amp is looking for, specifically, Mac is quality, but higher than giraffe snatch, and the ohmage SEEN is geared toward honey, not authority, and the cross-wire done it....the matter of the excursion movement plays only a small role compared to the speaker become more efficient by cross-wiring it....I notice the voices standing out more....better cut it off, just saw some head-hunters coming down a valley....this is uncharted territory, Clint....no proof......

 

[mulester7]

....anyone....with surround receivers and center speakers, where is the small to large adjustment located?....and does ONE single two-sided speaker wire run to your center channel speaker from the amp section/s, or TWO, two-sided speaker wired?....and if the center speaker were powered by rca-ended speaker cable cord, the question would still involve 1 or 2....work with me here, I may be able to tell you something to try that will have you well pleased.....

 

[annunaki]

Could you try to be a bit more concise. Your statements and punctuation make it very difficult to understand what you are trying to get across. Thanks.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

Please stop posting after you've been huffing KrazyGlue.

 

[clayman88]

Yah, bro. I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Punctuation = good.

 

[Rotarhead69]

man - thank God I'm not the only one who cant understand a word he's saying - I thought all my glue sniffn' was messn' with me

The thing is I DO want to read what people say!

 

[Shinerman]

but higher than giraffe snatch...

I just figured out how Mulester got his name. He's been out "mulesting" giraffe.

Shinerman

 

[Die Hard Yammy]

Oh man that was great Shinerman, my compliments!

 

[ducker]

I'm amazed that mulester7 is still able to post. His posts and their content, are simply a waste of members time. Not to mention cluttering up the message boards with this nonsense.

 

[mulester7]

......a few caught the message....end of thread....quit bogarding the glue and pass it.....

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Mule,

You...gotta...quit...writing...like...this...because...it...drives...everyone...nuts... Just asking for some proper punctuation and more common sense. Talk to the laymen here and not the idiot savants.


Your statement:

....anyone....with surround receivers and center speakers, where is the small to large adjustment located?....and does ONE single two-sided speaker wire run to your center channel speaker from the amp section/s, or TWO, two-sided speaker wired?....and if the center speaker were powered by rca-ended speaker cable cord, the question would still involve 1 or 2....work with me here, I may be able to tell you something to try that will have you well pleased.....

has me a little lost. I am assuming your amp is a few years old and does not have bass management, so you cannot choose the large or small option for fronts or center. I haven't seen rca speaker connections since my parents 1975 Soundesign 8 track HiFi all in one system. A photo of your equipment would do wonders. Did you ever purchase that digital camera? I recommend the new Canon SD500 7.1 megapixel.

 

[sjdgpt]

I recommend the new Canon SD500 7.1 megapixel.

Nice Camera

 

[mulester7]

Buck,
I don't own a multi-channel receiver and never will.
I bought one, though, and handed it to my son-in-law.
He took it and said thank you.
Is everyone with me so far?
I also handed him two, (2), full-range, three-element speaker enclosures.
All three speaker elements were present in both full-range speaker enclosures.
Only two of the speaker elements figure into the ohmage rating in any way, work on that.
I handed him two cylinder subs.
He thanked me again.
I handed him two (2) amps to push the subs, and, an AC-powered passive unit, to cut the frequency ceiling, variably, from 120 hz to 35 hz.
That is 1/2 of what a small-to-large adjustment does and the damned thing would have to be at receiver-level.
I have no Idea if the multi-channel receiver I bought Greg has small-to-large adjustment or not, please refer above concerning buying-handing.
I went into Greg's multi-channel receiver one night on a totally different quest and never looked at the front panel.
I found expectant puppies.
Sorry.
New Man.
I was told today by a guy who runs and owns a well-respected hi-end audio equipment-repair facility locallly, that no speaker from a multi-channel receiver is cross-wired.
My heart sank.
I'm fine now.
Thanks for asking.
Back on The Mountain Of Digestion concerning my thoughts.
Glueless since age 11.

 

[mulester7]

And Buck,
the other thing your small-to-large adjustment does, is allow the "floor" of the frequency response that is going to be sent to ALL the speakers BESIDES the sub to be variable also.
So, you have a variable "cut", frequency-wise, on both the "ceiling" of the signal to be sent to the powered sub, as well as a, variable, "cut", on the "floor" of the frequency response signal to be sent to the other full-range speakers.
The "ceiling" of the signal to be sent to the sub, and the
Envision a two-story house.
Ten foot celings on both levels.
The ceiling of the lower level and the floor of the upper level are relatively at the same point.
You have a knob on the wall that will lower the ceilng down to as low as 4 feet.
The floor of the upper level comes down to the same level, to establish a 16 foot tall room.
The knob on the wall is variable.
You can also have a 16 foot tall room at lower level, with a four foot tall room at upper level.
This happens at pre-amp level, exclusively.
Where to set the small-to-large adjustment is totally dependent on your mains" ability to produce acceptable bass.
The Ears Decide.
As well they should.
They paid for it.

 

[mulester7]

Four days now with the full-range speakers cross-wired and counting.
Anyone, please, talk to me if you know for a fact it ruins full-range speakers to cross-wire and change the presence, excursion movement of, and ohmage seen by the amp.
The Mac 2200 noticably runs cooler.
Major factor now established.
Bob freaked when I told him I hit his smaller speakers for four hours cross-wired.
He said it could burn them up.
I asked, "where's the heat?"
No response for about 10 seconds.
He said it could change the crossover points.
I asked, "are you adding any wire to coils in the crossover?"
No response for about a minute.
Guys, I could be about to ruin 5 grand mains list, please respond if you know for a fact it will ruin a full-range speaker to cross-wire it.
You cross-wire one woofer out of two when you have common air space in applications other than a box in a trunk.
The excursion movement is reversed from the cross-wiring for a push/pull configuration, and the cross-wired woofer becomes a powered radiator.
Tears a passive radiator a new one.
My subs have such an arrangement using four elements, so we know cross-wiring is for real.
The only variable involving full-range speakers is a crossover.
Four and counting.
Great presence.
Barely warm amp.

 

[Resident Loser]

Like everyone else here...

...I'm baffled...but I think you have come up with a tremendous idea however...it's called MONO!!!

Just as an aside, and FWIW, it's "Bogarting" a reference to how Humphrey smoked...

jimHJJ(...what ARE you talking about...crosswiring what???...)

 

[Shinerman]

...I'm baffled...but I think you have come up with a tremendous idea however...it's called MONO!!!

Just as an aside, and FWIW, it's "Bogarting" a reference to how Humphrey smoked...

jimHJJ(...what ARE you talking about...crosswiring what???...)

It's best to just let him converse with himself. He seems to get more responses and answers that way.


BTW, what happened to his post count. Its like 37 now. I thought he was in the 200 to 300 hundreds with all his spamming and endless dialogs with himself. Looks like someone did some heavy editing.

Shinerman

 

[jaxvon]

I think Clint resets his post count every so often now, and has also given him the title of "Spambot".

 

[Die Hard Yammy]

I think we should all give Clint a pat on the back for that! Agree?

 

[MacManNM]

Four days now with the full-range speakers cross-wired and counting.
Anyone, please, talk to me if you know for a fact it ruins full-range speakers to cross-wire and change the presence, excursion movement of, and ohmage seen by the amp.
The Mac 2200 noticably runs cooler.
Major factor now established.
Bob freaked when I told him I hit his smaller speakers for four hours cross-wired.
He said it could burn them up.
I asked, "where's the heat?"
No response for about 10 seconds.
He said it could change the crossover points.
I asked, "are you adding any wire to coils in the crossover?"
No response for about a minute.
Guys, I could be about to ruin 5 grand mains list, please respond if you know for a fact it will ruin a full-range speaker to cross-wire it.
You cross-wire one woofer out of two when you have common air space in applications other than a box in a trunk.
The excursion movement is reversed from the cross-wiring for a push/pull configuration, and the cross-wired woofer becomes a powered radiator.
Tears a passive radiator a new one.
My subs have such an arrangement using four elements, so we know cross-wiring is for real.
The only variable involving full-range speakers is a crossover.
Four and counting.
Great presence.
Barely warm amp.

By cross wiring do you mean switching the polarity on a woofer in a box with more than one woofer, so that the two are out of phase?