Failed Analog inputs on Marantz SR7015

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The RX-A6A has the PEQ feature that supposedly let you use a total of 6 (if I remember right, @AcuDefTechGuy can correct me if I am wrong) bands on top of YPAO's auto RC/EQ.

7 bands PEQ for speakers, 4 bands for subwoofers.

 

[PENG]

7 bands PEQ for speakers, 4 bands for subwoofers.

By the way, I am beginning to see prices of avrs such as D+M's in Canada now much closer, even lower than those in the USA. Is that due to Tariff? If I understand right, it applies to imported products to the US, but definitely not to Canada.

Even Yamaha's, example:

Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: USD2699.95 = CD3774.26
Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: CD3499

Are your customers complaining yet?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

By the way, I am beginning to see prices of avrs such as D+M's in Canada now much closer, even lower than those in the USA. Is that due to Tariff? If I understand right, it applies to imported products to the US, but definitely not to Canada.

Even Yamaha's, example:

Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: USD2699.95 = CD3774.26
Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: CD3499

Are your customers complaining yet?

I have no idea if tariff is the reason. But it seems to be a good excuse for companies raising prices.

I see people complaining about price increases - like how they increased the Marantz AV10 by $1K and the Epson LS12000 by $1K.

 

[TLS Guy]

By the way, I am beginning to see prices of avrs such as D+M's in Canada now much closer, even lower than those in the USA. Is that due to Tariff? If I understand right, it applies to imported products to the US, but definitely not to Canada.

Even Yamaha's, example:

Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: USD2699.95 = CD3774.26
Crutchfield.com RX-A6A: CD3499

Are your customers complaining yet?

Luckily I beat the tariffs. I have to be grateful my 7706 failed as soon as it did. The best thing that piece of misery ever did for me was to fail as soon as it did!

You can see in the signs in the economy the "orange devil" is tanking it, and it will rapidly get worse. I have never seen a bag of groceries increase so fast in my life. Since the lunatic in chief started his nonsense a bag of groceries round here has increased from around $50.00 to $75.00. He is an absolute disaster.

 

[TLS Guy]

I have no idea if tariff is the reason. But it seems to be a good excuse for companies raising prices.

I see people complaining about price increases - like how they increased the Marantz AV10 by $1K and the Epson LS12000 by $1K.

Trump put a flat rate 15% tariff on all goods from Japan

I have no idea if tariff is the reason. But it seems to be a good excuse for companies raising prices.

I see people complaining about price increases - like how they increased the Marantz AV10 by $1K and the Epson LS12000 by $1K.

Trump placed a 15% flat tariff on all goods from Japan on September 4. So the price rise of the AV 10 is 14%. So the importer and retailer are eating a percent of it if they are going to pay with leveraged dollars, which they may well be they will be behind. So depending on the circumstances of all involved, they may well be making less profit on the $8000 sale, than they did on the $7000 sale.

The history of tariffs is very bad, and lead to recessions and even depressions. Trump is illiterate, so has no idea what he is doing or of the chaos he will cause.

 

[Phil J N.Z.]

The RX-A6A has the PEQ feature that supposedly let you use a total of 6 (if I remember right, @AcuDefTechGuy can correct me if I am wrong) bands on top of YPAO's auto RC/EQ.

So if you work on PEQ, and better still, use REW to do it for you, then input it to the unit, you should be able to do very well, at least in the critical range of 20-200 Hz. It is actually fun to play with using manual PEQ with the auto EQ, people do that with Audyssey too.

By the way, the Cinema 50 seems to be a very nice unit, if you can live with a few features missing in the Cinema 40. As to the power output, as @TLS Guy alluded to, the difference between the 2 is negligible, wouldn't make any difference in probably 95% of use cases. If you do need more juice, just grab whatever cheap power amps to the channel you need and you are done.

It seems to me your dealer is quite fair about this, because while you are right the SR7015's equivalent is the Cinema 40, but that's only in terms of the convenience features such as the 2nd larger display, and the power amp power supply section (the power amp modules are actually the same), but the Cinema 50 offers 4 subwoofer output channels vs the SR7015's 2, and Dirac Live pay upgradable, that, in my opinion, more than offset the slightly more powerful power supplies and a few nicety features the SR7015 has.

You obviously prefer the Marantz brand over Denon's, so I think the C50 would be your best choice and you will be very happy with it, again, if you can leave with those few missing features, some people just don't like the smaller display.

What I am really going to miss no matter what I get now is the 7.1 Analog in, I was using that to listen to SACD disks from my Oppo UDP205 as it has an ESS Refrence DAC and it sounded fantastic, for whatever reason it's a feature that has been removed.
With my age I really liked the large 2 line display on the 7015, with the C50 I lose that, am not worried one way or the other about multi subs.

I have now had 3 Marantz that have failed for whatever reason and it worries me one out of 3 I can understand but 3 out of 3 tells me Quality control is falling behind.

 

[TLS Guy]

What I am really going to miss no matter what I get now is the 7.1 Analog in, I was using that to listen to SACD disks from my Oppo UDP205 as it has an ESS Refrence DAC and it sounded fantastic, for whatever reason it's a feature that has been removed.
With my age I really liked the large 2 line display on the 7015, with the C50 I lose that, am not worried one way or the other about multi subs.

I have now had 3 Marantz that have failed for whatever reason and it worries me one out of 3 I can understand but 3 out of 3 tells me Quality control is falling behind.

Those 7.1 analog ins have disappeared. They take up a lot of space and mainly only older disc players have them. It is a slight problem with SACD players connected to a receiver or AVP than can not decode DSD.

However those analog ins took up a lot of real estate, and if using a receiver you will end up with two conversions as analog inputs are generally digitized. I had to oust my old Marantz pre HDMI SACD player. However my Sony universal player connected to my AV 10 does an excellent job.

DSD is something that should never have seen the light of day anyway. Editing in DSD is a nightmare and for years anyone editing a DSD recording converts to PCM to edit and then back to DSD. The whole thing was a construct of audiophools anyway and only has downsides to PCM and NO upsides.

Now to Sound United quality control under Masimo ownership. Units made outside Shirakawa have had reliability issues coupled with appalling warranty service or actually lack of it. I have had two units fail. One only just five years old had to be recycled due to no parts available and the other at three months. After five months I still don't have it. So that is why I advise no one to purchase ANY Denon or Marantz unit built other than in Shirakawa until Harmon/Samsung, the recent purchasers, of Sound United have had time to get control of the situation.

That is why, if you don't want more trouble then buy the AV 40 which is by far your best option. Next best option is Yamaha.

 

[everettT]

What I am really going to miss no matter what I get now is the 7.1 Analog in, I was using that to listen to SACD disks from my Oppo UDP205 as it has an ESS Refrence DAC and it sounded fantastic, for whatever reason it's a feature that has been removed.
With my age I really liked the large 2 line display on the 7015, with the C50 I lose that, am not worried one way or the other about multi subs.

I have now had 3 Marantz that have failed for whatever reason and it worries me one out of 3 I can understand but 3 out of 3 tells me Quality control is falling behind.

I'd hate to have to do bass management from my player these days. As @TLS Guy mentioned the analog inputs will get digitized if you're doing anything with Audyssey or DIRAC (and even just the crossover settings will down sample) and as I mentioned in your new thread the amplifier section will be the limiting factor in almost every AVR.

I'd bet dollars to donuts you will be happy without the multi ch analog "in" inputs.