Elon

[davidscott]

Isn't like Joe who voted for a passed taxing SS way back than again! So there's that.

sure but not even close

 

[mtrycrafts]

... “God’s will” and so forth. ...

He/she/it never informed me of that.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Funny how billionaires are going to decide on the fate of Medicare and SS for the common peeps. I'm sure Trump will once again reduce taxes for the ultra-rich. Oh well we voted for this.

Well, enough voted for this to be a thing.
Tax cut in a sense that the original Trump tax cut that had an expiration date will continue, so it is a tax cut no matter how you slice it and will happen.

 

[Mikado463]

It is amazing how the libs are all in an uproar over Trump and his upcoming soap opera Gotta be sure and buy extra popcorn for 1/20/25 .............

 

[Dude#1279435]

It is amazing how the libs are all in an uproar over Trump and his upcoming soap opera Gotta be sure and buy extra popcorn for 1/20/25 .............

Please don't say some of Trump's cabinet picks are normal.

 

[jinjuku]

Did you say racist?
X Is a White-Supremacist Site - The Atlantic
The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
Elon Musk's AI turns on him, labels him 'one of the most significant spreaders of misinformation on X' | Fortune
No wonder it's worth a fraction of its purchase price.
Elon Musk’s X is worth nearly 80% less than when he bought it, Fidelity estimates | CNN Business
That was in October. There has been a major exodus from the site since the election.

What are you talking about? It's not what I responded too. I think most of the social media sites are cesspits. Nice dodge of your ignorantly spewed racist stereotype which is what I responded to.

1: So all housekeepers, lawn care, etc are a certain ethno-economic-centric class?
2: We should keep up with the exploitation because it effectively enables a wage suppression campaign on and do it against the most vulnerable? You're a stand up guy...

 

[jinjuku]

A pioneering program and spacecraft developed 50 years ago was more costly? I'm shocked.

Criticism of Tesla, Inc. - Wikipedia

YMMV, but I'm not a fan.

Ok. Let's take SLS which is current: $21,000 / 2.2lb (aka 1kg).

 

[jinjuku]

Criticism of Tesla, Inc. - Wikipedia

YMMV, but I'm not a fan.

Versus, pretty much single handedly, kicking off the main stream EV market, installing the super charger network, publishing Telsa charging as open source for other EV makers to blue print and follow.

Everything looks like an asshole to a proctologist.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Versus, pretty much single handedly, kicking off the main stream EV market, installing the super charger network, publishing Telsa charging as open source for other EV makers to blue print and follow.

Everything looks like an asshole to a proctologist.

But is EV even a legitimate form of reliable transportation?

 

[Mikado463]

Please don't say some of Trump's cabinet picks are normal.

I'm not sure what 'normal' is anymore ...........

 

[GO-NAD!]

I'm a bit familiar with it- my 10th great grandfather was indentured and the info wa passed down.

I'm really tired of the "they do work that the Americans don't want to do", but from the standpoint of telling those Americans "Get off your ass and get a GD job!". So many think they're so effing special that manual labor is beneath them and these aren't middle-income or wealthy people, they're low income, uneducated/dropped out and sit on their butts or go into crime. Kids who get into trouble are frequently asked "Did you graduate" and they say "I dropped out because there was nothing for me in school". Yeah, there is- a way out of poverty. Then, they want $20/hour minimum wage, which is more than many skilled labor jobs pay.

I know several people who came to the US illegally and became citizens or are in the process- they came here to work, but some have gotten into trouble but they weren't a part of an organized crime gang, cartel, etc- they just drank far too much and got into a lot of fights.

That said, we need to check out who's coming across the border into the US, your country or any other. Not doing that is causing problems in all countries that allow it. The process shouldn't be a burden to anyone with a clean record, but it should weed out the bad ones, from any country.

I absolutely agree that everyone entering our countries should be documented, regardless of the circumstances of their arrival. There should be nobody working "under the table". Such practices lead to taking advantage of employees, as they may be deprived of the legal protections and benefits granted to documented workers. It can also depress wages of other workers. It can also lead to governments being deprived of tax revenue that would otherwise be due.

I'm less concerned about an influx of criminals. I mean, if you take the chance to enter the country illegally after maybe travelling hundreds or thousands of kilometres and possibly spending every precious penny you have, would you want to take the chance of drawing unwanted attention to yourself? Of course, a quick search will easily turn up some bad examples, but individual cases to not refute the statistics. I mean, not only do you risk punishment for your crime, you will invariably be deported after your sentence (in Canada, at least).

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’ | Brennan Center for Justice
Just 0.3% of irregular migrants in Canada found to have serious criminal past | Globalnews.ca

 

[jinjuku]

I absolutely agree that everyone entering our countries should be documented, regardless of the circumstances of their arrival. There should be nobody working "under the table". Such practices lead to taking advantage of employees, as they may be deprived of the legal protections and benefits granted to documented workers. It can also depress wages of other workers. It can also lead to governments being deprived of tax revenue that would otherwise be due.


Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’ | Brennan Center for Justice
Just 0.3% of irregular migrants in Canada found to have serious criminal past | Globalnews.ca

Isn't a NYC a 'Sanctuary City' and you have/had Abrams talking about monumental cost it takes to house/feed/clothe?

I've never argued the myth of criminality.

There's a protocol for gaining blessed status and it's limited in the # of people that are going to get it. Now should we look at those #'s? Sure.

 

[GO-NAD!]

What are you talking about? It's not what I responded too. I think most of the social media sites are cesspits. Nice dodge of your ignorantly spewed racist stereotype which is what I responded to.

1: So all housekeepers, lawn care, etc are a certain ethno-economic-centric class?
2: We should keep up with the exploitation because it effectively enables a wage suppression campaign on and do it against the most vulnerable? You're a stand up guy...

What am I talking about? What the 'eff are you talking about!? You responded to @adk highlander's post to call him a racist. I just pointed out that your hero is a documented white supremacist.

Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

On top of that, while @adk highlander may have been a bit flippant with his comment, calling it racist is a stretch. And, how you came to the conclusion that I support exploitation of undocumented employees is utterly baffling, as nothing I've stated would indicate that, unless you've read my comments through a kaleidoscope, or you were high.

So, you can save your gaslighting nonsense for someone who might take you seriously, because I don't.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Versus, pretty much single handedly, kicking off the main stream EV market, installing the super charger network, publishing Telsa charging as open source for other EV makers to blue print and follow.

Everything looks like an asshole to a proctologist.

Whatever he has done with Tesla doesn't redeem him.

 

[highfigh]

Funny how billionaires are going to decide on the fate of Medicare and SS for the common peeps. I'm sure Trump will once again reduce taxes for the ultra-rich. Oh well we voted for this.

One of the guys on a local radio morning show often says "I'm tired of billionaires telling millionaires what the Middle Class needs".

The thing is, Congress doesn't have billionaires, but they definitely are clueless and check their brains at the door when they enter office.

Voters need to stop being gullible, voting for what is promised and letting the elected get away with not following through.

 

[highfigh]

But is EV even a legitimate form of reliable transportation?

If it's not, why are so many in governments and environmental groups trying to end the use of fossil fuels? It's not as if wind power would propel cars and trucks.

WWGTD?

 

[highfigh]

Isn't a NYC a 'Sanctuary City' and you have/had Abrams talking about monumental cost it takes to house/feed/clothe?

I've never argued the myth of criminality.

There's a protocol for gaining blessed status and it's limited in the # of people that are going to get it. Now should we look at those #'s? Sure.

NYC Mayor is no longer in favor of that being a sanctuary city. I guess it looked good on paper, then the bills showed up.

 

[jinjuku]

What am I talking about? What the 'eff are you talking about!? You responded to @adk highlander's post to call him a racist. I just pointed out that your hero is a documented white supremacist.

Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers
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On top of that, while @adk highlander may have been a bit flippant with his comment, calling it racist is a stretch. And, how you came to the conclusion that I support exploitation of undocumented employees is utterly baffling, as nothing I've stated would indicate that, unless you've read my comments through a kaleidoscope, or you were high.

So, you can save your gaslighting nonsense for someone who might take you seriously, because I don't.

Whoa whoa whoa. Who said he's my 'hero'?

I missattributed so for that you have my correction on the matter.

It's not gaslighting in any form or fashion. You and yours when something obvious gets pointed out move the goal posts.

Musk has been a citizen since 2002. He was going to Stanford and then started his own business. The TLDR is that he initially came over legally, wasn't a net drain, and was given 45 days to correct his status which he did.

The fact of the matter is:

1: Kicked off the EV revolution
2: Kicked off the EV infrastructure market
3: Kicked off large scale battery production/development
4: Completely revolutionized the LEO launch market globally
5: Completely revolutionized Satellite internet

Remember that blue bar represents ~11 million people out of a population of ~330 million.

From the same Paper:

Conclusion
Illegal immigrants are a significant net fiscal drain -- paying less in taxes than they use in public
services. The primary reason they create more in costs than they pay in taxes is their relative low
levels of education. Based on prior research, 69 percent of adult illegal immigrants have no
education beyond high school, compared to 35 percent of the U.S.-born. As a result, they tend to
earn modest wages and make modest tax contributions even when income and payroll taxes are
taken out of their pay. This fact, coupled with the relatively heavy demands they make on public
coffers -- especially for education, health care, and means-tested programs -- is the reason they
are a net fiscal drain.
We estimate that 59 percent of illegal immigrant households use one or more major welfare
programs, costing roughly $42 billion a year. At the local level, the largest single cost is for
public education. We estimate the cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants, most of
whom are U.S.-born, totals $69 billion per year. While illegal immigrants often receive other
services for their U.S.-born children, even when we estimate the net fiscal impact of just the
illegal immigrants themselves, excluding their U.S.-born children, we still find they create a
lifetime net fiscal drain of $68,000 on average (taxes paid minus benefits received).
Even though illegal immigrants are net fiscal drains, they do pay a significant amount in taxes.
We estimate illegal immigrants pay $25.9 billion a year to the federal government.
Unfortunately, their tax contributions do not cover their consumption of public services.

Source

 

[highfigh]

I absolutely agree that everyone entering our countries should be documented, regardless of the circumstances of their arrival. There should be nobody working "under the table". Such practices lead to taking advantage of employees, as they may be deprived of the legal protections and benefits granted to documented workers. It can also depress wages of other workers. It can also lead to governments being deprived of tax revenue that would otherwise be due.

I'm less concerned about an influx of criminals. I mean, if you take the chance to enter the country illegally after maybe travelling hundreds or thousands of kilometres and possibly spending every precious penny you have, would you want to take the chance of drawing unwanted attention to yourself? Of course, a quick search will easily turn up some bad examples, but individual cases to not refute the statistics. I mean, not only do you risk punishment for your crime, you will invariably be deported after your sentence (in Canada, at least).

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’ | Brennan Center for Justice
Just 0.3% of irregular migrants in Canada found to have serious criminal past | Globalnews.ca

The criminals don't have to pay the coyotes to get in, so that part of the equation is gone and it seems that you aren't aware how bad the 'criminals' are.

Look into Tren de Aragua before you decide that the criminals aren't a problem. The link shows known, reported and unknown states- last I heard, they were in Illinois, but this shows they're in Wisconsin and that sucks because we have enough problems. MS-13 has been in the US for a long time, Tren de Aragua is worse. If they're in the US, it won't be long before they're in Canada, if they're not, already.

Map shows locations where Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua are active

The transnational criminal gang, known for violent acts and human trafficking, is now reportedly active in at least 16 US states.

www.newsweek.com

FBI: Venezuelan Tren de Aragua and Salvadoran MS-13 Gangs Could Form Dangerous Alliance in U.S. - The Foreign Desk | by Lisa Daftari

A special agent from the FBI spoke about how the two gangs are rapidly expanding and creating a criminal empire in the North American country.

foreigndesknews.com

 

[GO-NAD!]

The criminals don't have to pay the coyotes to get in, so that part of the equation is gone and it seems that you aren't aware how bad the 'criminals' are.

Look into Tren de Aragua before you decide that the criminals aren't a problem. The link shows known, reported and unknown states- last I heard, they were in Illinois, but this shows they're in Wisconsin and that sucks because we have enough problems. MS-13 has been in the US for a long time, Tren de Aragua is worse. If they're in the US, it won't be long before they're in Canada, if they're not, already.

Map shows locations where Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua are active

The transnational criminal gang, known for violent acts and human trafficking, is now reportedly active in at least 16 US states.

www.newsweek.com

FBI: Venezuelan Tren de Aragua and Salvadoran MS-13 Gangs Could Form Dangerous Alliance in U.S. - The Foreign Desk | by Lisa Daftari

A special agent from the FBI spoke about how the two gangs are rapidly expanding and creating a criminal empire in the North American country.

foreigndesknews.com

I'm not saying criminals aren't a problem. I'm saying they aren't as big a problem as many people think. You can point to specific issues, but that does not negate the statistics.