Editorial: How to Succeed in Business the Microsoft Way

[Tom Andry]

<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2><A href="http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/IE7.php"><IMG style="WIDTH: 125px; HEIGHT: 90px" alt=[IE71] hspace=10 src="http://www.audioholics.com/news/thumbs/IE71_th.jpg" align=left border=0></A>Microsoft, the software giant, released their new version of Internet Explorer yesterday. Version 7 touts increased security, is easier to use, and sports a number of added functionalities. Aside from the cosmetic, one of the more useful functions is tab browsing. With IE7, instead of having to have multiple windows open if you are viewing different sites, you have a single window with tabs along the top indicating which sites you have open. Users of Firefox should be familiar with this concept. </FONT></P>
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[Sheep]

Locked out of your computer?

There is VERY simple ways to get rid of those things.

Man that looks a lot like firefox...

SheepStar

 

[JohnA]

Locked out of your computer?

There is VERY simple ways to get rid of those things.

SheepStar

Yep...Get a Mac!

Couldn't resist

 

[Nuglets]

Yep...Get a Mac!

Couldn't resist

Or...use Linux, it's free!! Or just live with Microsoft's monopoly if you want to use your computer for anything other than a webserver or video/image editing. Microsoft has everything else on a tight lockdown. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows XP SP2 is required for IE7 trying to get sorry consumer's to go get the latest OS by Microsoft for $300 just because they feel like adding a code in the installer checking for the OS version. That company is such BS. They pulled that crap with AoE3 and FSX. Funny thing is, with AoE, all I had to do was install it on a PC running XP and transfer the installed files to my Win2K machine and not surprisingly it was fully functional with absolutely no problems. Hmmm, do I smell a BS scam? But I'm sure the Microsoft corporation needs that extra cash for something really important, unlike us middle class people. Why the hell would we need $300 other than to buy Windows XP right before Vista comes out? Sweet deal...Thanks Microsoft, we couldn't do it without you.

 

[Nuglets]

Locked out of your computer?

There is VERY simple ways to get rid of those things.

Man that looks a lot like firefox...

SheepStar

What is this simple way to get out of it? If Microsoft locks you out of their OS, their isn't much you can do about it without illegally modifying code.

 

[Jack Hammer]

MS definately pulls some BS with their software. The proprietary type crap they've done in the past is inexcusable. In their defense, though, you really can't blame any software company from not wanted their product pirated. I have no problem with them developing EFFECTIVE, honest and non-destructive tools for stopping their product from working on pirated systems. That doesn't make it OK for them to lock people out of their computers or cause them to crash or anything else bad. It should just simply cause that specific program one is trying to install to not work or not be able to be installed on a pirated operating system - nothing else. And it needs to work properly so their aren't a bunch of false negatives (positives? whichever applies).

My $0.02

Jack

 

[farscaper]

Get Firefox and be done with it. Its free and far safer.
Many of the updates in the functionality for IE7 have been in Firefox for a while now.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

I am a mac user and use Safari and Firefox most all of the time. When I have to use a PC with windows, I use Firefox, it is fast, secure and free. It is the best browser for the PC period. No need to use IE at all.

 

[Matt34]

I am a mac user and use Safari and Firefox most all of the time. When I have to use a PC with windows, I use Firefox, it is fast, secure and free. It is the best browser for the PC period. No need to use IE at all.

Yup, Firefox user here and will personally never go back to IE. I love my add-on's and extensions.

 

[JAD2]

You would think AUDIOPHILE's, people so smart in electronics, per say, would even consider using such BOSE RELATED PRODUCTS, let alone write about them!!!!

 

[Tom Andry]

JAD, feel free to send me a list of Audiophile approved topics so that I don't offend your Golden Ears (Eyes, Brain?) any further. Had I realized I was breaking the Audiophile code of conduct, I would have flogged myself repeatedly before ever considering writing on such an ignoble topic. Apparently, my Audiophile handbook is out of date. I'll contact Jessica Simpson and have her write me out another, long hand of course. She may know squat about tuna, but she knows good sound!

 

[Hi Ho]

I have had IE 7 in Windows Vista and it doesn't look at all like Firefox. It doesn't matter to me since I use Maxthon.

IE7 Vista Screenshot

Maxthon Screenshot

Why the hell would we need $300 other than to buy Windows XP right before Vista comes out? Sweet deal...Thanks Microsoft, we couldn't do it without you.

Windows XP does not cost $300. See HERE.

 

[Nuglets]

Windows XP does not cost $300. See HERE.

That's for Home Edition and it's also OEM...Which, in the world of Operating Systems, means it is meant to be sold packaged with a new system. Newegg doesn't specify this, so I don't know if it's "grey market" or what, but I'm pretty sure they aren't supposed to sell it separately. If you buy the standalone "Retail" version, available here it is very close to $300.

 

[Hi Ho]

You need to buy a piece of hardware with the OEM version. That means any piece of hardware. A $2 power splitter counts. There is absolutely no reason to buy the retail version of XP Home or Pro. Newegg is among the largest retailers of PC components. I'm guessing that if they were selling software illegally, someone would notice.

 

[JAD2]

Well I just find it real odd that a forum what has no computer area for posting problems etc would take the time to do a review for computer stuff.

I mean usually from what I've seen the reviews are all done on gear thats been donated for testing, puts some money in the sites pocket for advertising, which at least keeps X company from getting a review where the product should be ripped on, instead of, well its OK but not the best.

Then you allow people to blast Bose products, which doesnt have people pretty much on the uneducated side, by the balls, like Micro Crap does and fly with a review!!!!

You would think people with all this knowledge on electronic gear would also be smart enough not to get caught into the Bose+ of the computer world.

Even me the idiot, that just cant hear what you guys seem to hear, see the things you guys seem to see, with not much a back ground in electronics TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, learned if you want a computer to run right, safe, secure and without spam etc, Micro Crap is not the answer. Like sound, video, you want it stable, under control and having the ability to fine tune it as needed, Micro Crap doesnt offer that and rips people off just like Bose does with more brashness!!! At minimum, you'd think you'd be running at least a Mac!!

 

[Matt34]

Um, actually it was an editorial not a review.

This is the steam vent, just about anything is fair game.

 

[Tom Andry]

Let me correct you on a couple of points:

First, it was an editorial, not a review. There were a few hints about this, 1) posted in the editorial section, not the review section, 2) thread about the editorial in the Steam Vent and not one of the other forums, 3) the length is considerably shorter than even the most cursory of our reviews, oh and 4) the word EDITORIAL in front of this thread title and the front page posting.

Our reviews are not bought, ratings not changed based on advertising dollars, and we review plenty of equipment from companies that we know, even before the review, have never and will never give us a red cent. And for the most part they don't donate the equipment. I send back most everything I review.

I find it interesting that you seem to think that people with knowledge of audio should be knowledgeable in all other areas as well (such as computers). So, by that logic, you'd trust Gene or Clint or myself to fix your car? Fill a cavity? Perform open heart surgery?

As great as you seem to think Macs are (and perhaps they are) I simply can't do all the work I need to do on a Mac. Of course, if you'd like to donate one and pay for some advertising, I'd be happy to give it a bad review just to prove you wrong.

 

[majorloser]

Well I just find it real odd that a forum what has no computer area for posting problems etc would take the time to do a review for computer stuff.

I mean usually from what I've seen the reviews are all done on gear thats been donated for testing, puts some money in the sites pocket for advertising, which at least keeps X company from getting a review where the product should be ripped on, instead of, well its OK but not the best.

Then you allow people to blast Bose products, which doesnt have people pretty much on the uneducated side, by the balls, like Micro Crap does and fly with a review!!!!

You would think people with all this knowledge on electronic gear would also be smart enough not to get caught into the Bose+ of the computer world.

Even me the idiot, that just cant hear what you guys seem to hear, see the things you guys seem to see, with not much a back ground in electronics TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, learned if you want a computer to run right, safe, secure and without spam etc, Micro Crap is not the answer. Like sound, video, you want it stable, under control and having the ability to fine tune it as needed, Micro Crap doesnt offer that and rips people off just like Bose does with more brashness!!! At minimum, you'd think you'd be running at least a Mac!!

Uhhhhh..........do we feel better?


WOW, Microsoft and Bose ripping in one post.
Brought tears to my eyes.

 

[Nuglets]

You need to buy a piece of hardware with the OEM version. That means any piece of hardware. A $2 power splitter counts. There is absolutely no reason to buy the retail version of XP Home or Pro. Newegg is among the largest retailers of PC components. I'm guessing that if they were selling software illegally, someone would notice.

Have you bought the OEM, because I don't know if you are correct about that. I haven't, but it has always been my understanding that OEM is for new systems. It doesn't seem quite right that you can buy a $2 part and get a $100 or larger discount on an OS. According to this
site, there are regulations when purchasing OEM software and that has always been what I thought.

I'm not trying to argue, but what you are saying doesn't seem correct. I'm sorry but I just can't see Microsoft allowing a loophole like that. Software that is meant to be sold to registered system builders for use in new systems going to anybody with no restrictions seems absurd, especially from Microsoft. Hey, maybe I'm wrong, and if I am I guess it makes life easier(cheaper), but it doesn't make sense that there are no reason's to buy a "retail" version.

 

[majorloser]

Have you bought the OEM, because I don't know if you are correct about that. I haven't, but it has always been my understanding that OEM is for new systems. It doesn't seem quite right that you can buy a $2 part and get a $100 or larger discount on an OS. According to this
site, there are regulations when purchasing OEM software and that has always been what I thought.

I'm not trying to argue, but what you are saying doesn't seem correct. I'm sorry but I just can't see Microsoft allowing a loophole like that. Software that is meant to be sold to registered system builders for use in new systems going to anybody with no restrictions seems absurd, especially from Microsoft. Hey, maybe I'm wrong, and if I am I guess it makes life easier(cheaper), but it doesn't make sense that there are no reason's to buy a "retail" version.

Actually, YES, you can buy the OEM version of XP if you buy any other piece of hardware. Some retailers add a connector cable to the order (hardware) and then credit the price of the cable to the order as a "special buy".