Dolby TrueHD volume is low in Denon x4400h compared Dolby Digital or Dolby Digital Plus format

lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Agree, but only concern is directional base
Somewhat depends on your sub positioning/integration for a single sub (or how many different seats you're concerned about). Localization is not an issue for me generally, particularly not in my main setup with four subs, a bit more noticeable in my workshop where there are two subs in one location (but not a critical environment by any means so it doesn't really matter). In my bedroom one sub was localizable but with two in separate locations not an issue.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Exactly that's the doubt I have for long. If the speaker is good enough to play even 40hz like KEF R500, why not set the crossover to 60hz at least? Otherwise, won't we get directional sound from the sub? Won't it be bad for 2.1 music and even for surround music or movie? But in almost all forum posts, i see many recommend if you have a great sub like monolith ultra 15, set the crossover all speakers to 80hz or more.
I wish it was that simple. The sad fact is, the lower frequencies produced by different speakers in different positions in the same room will interact with each other and it is hard to know the overall effects because it depends on many factors. The lower the frequency, the more interaction between the speakers and the subwoofers.

In my setup, and I can post some graphs to show you, setting XO lower than 80 Hz could result in not so insignificant dips and bumps in the lower range up to 120 Hz or even higher. Remember, XO is not a brick wall, so if XO is 60 Hz, there could be significant output from the R500 down to 45 Hz or lower, again, depending on placement and room. The interaction may produce better (flatter) response, or worse (dips and bumps), that's even after running Audyssey. I found that with Audyssey, I could get very impressive response but I have to pick the right XO. Other Room EQ system such as Dirac Live may do better but I have not tried it yet.

Anyway, lower XO such as 60 hz may work for you in your specific setup in your room, or it may not, but you may still prefer the sound even with the dips and bumps that you don't see. Lots of people don't like flat bass response anyway.

So just try it, if XO 60 sounds better to you, great, if not then try 80, or 90 hz, as someone said, no right or wrong.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I just played the Dolby Atmos Demo Disc 2014 on my system (Yamaha CX-A5100). The sound for these 4 trailers (Amaze, Leaf, Conductor, Unfold) in Dolby Atmos is the best sound I have ever heard, period.









It's weird that the Atmos volume is lower than the regular DD volume in your system. If anything, I think Atmos should be louder with the extra 4 ceiling speakers.

BTW, I set the XO to 120Hz for all my speakers. My ceiling speaker spec is 45Hz - 20kHz +/- 3dB, 88dB/2.83V/m.
 
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everettT

everettT

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I just played the Dolby Atmos Demo Disc 2014 on my system (Yamaha CX-A5100). The sound for these 4 trailers (Amaze, Leaf, Conductor, Unfold) in Dolby Atmos is the best sound I have ever heard, period.

It's weird that the Atmos volume is lower than the regular DD volume in your system. If anything, I think Atmos should be louder with the extra 4 ceiling speakers.

BTW, I set the XO to 120Hz for all my speakers. My ceiling speaker spec is 45Hz - 20kHz +/- 3dB, 88dB/2.83V/m.
I bet your 5 bass modules sound incredible at a 120hz crossover. Your incredible coverage sucks :D
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Just how good can a speaker with a pair of 5.25" "bass" drivers do with bass, tho?
Quite a bit if they are built like these.






Now the Chinese have their muckers on it it all. After purchase CEO Lars Prisak who was to stay on has resigned for reasons of honor. Now Max Jiang and Peng Peng are in charge and been sent to Skandeborg Denmark.

Another great company down the tubes!

Those pictures are from that long ago time when you could buy those first class Dynaudio drivers.
 
Bookmark

Bookmark

Full Audioholic
I have found adding in 4 extra speakers I have needed to drop the volume a tad, just to forestall the complaints. :(

I would like to add Dolby Silent to the above list.
 
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john20182050

Audioholic
I just played the Dolby Atmos Demo Disc 2014 on my system (Yamaha CX-A5100). The sound for these 4 trailers (Amaze, Leaf, Conductor, Unfold) in Dolby Atmos is the best sound I have ever heard, period.









It's weird that the Atmos volume is lower than the regular DD volume in your system. If anything, I think Atmos should be louder with the extra 4 ceiling speakers.

BTW, I set the XO to 120Hz for all my speakers. My ceiling speaker spec is 45Hz - 20kHz +/- 3dB, 88dB/2.83V/m.
I don't have celing speakers. I have only 7.1 with two backs and two back surround.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I don't have celing speakers. I have only 7.1 with two backs and two back surround.
Whether they are ceiling (overhead) or height speakers, adding more speakers (2-4) will increase the overall volume of the system. So when Atmos is on, the whole system should be louder.
 

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