Does adding power really make a difference?

[Seth=L]

yea its 8 speakers that are all the same type.

Assuming the speaker selector is impedance matching the end output at maximum would be 25 watts, but I doubt it gets even that much.

 

[adwilk]

I'd put a bigger motor in the truck cause mustangs are for girls...

I agree completely though. In that application, where; lets be honest, SQ is probably not the most important priority, get more efficient speakers.

get a pair of these and be done with it. You could still use a couple pairs of the JBL's...

Thats my three cents

EDIT... I guess These would be cheaper.

 

[Seth=L]

I'd put a bigger motor in the truck cause mustangs are for girls...

I agree completely though. In that application, where; lets be honest, SQ is probably not the most important priority, get more efficient speakers.

get a pair of these and be done with it. You could still use a couple pairs of the JBL's...

Thats my three cents

My personal experience with PA monitors like those is they don't happily stay right around their rated impedance, they go everywhere. Receiver aren't used to drive speakers like these for good reason, they get destroyed by them.

 

[Neatweak]

by the way the reason I went with the speakers was that I got each pair for around 40 bucks on ebay. So I might be wrong and going agaisnt the mustang f 150 thing, but if the speakers are getting 25 watts continous wouldnt it make sense to add more power to bring it up to the alotted 60

 

[Seth=L]

by the way the reason I went with the speakers was that I got each pair for around 40 bucks on ebay. So I might be wrong and going agaisnt the mustang f 150 thing, but if the speakers are getting 25 watts continous wouldnt it make sense to add more power to bring it up to the alotted 60

Yeah, it makes sense now. I didn't have the whole picture before. You can buy my amplifier.

 

[Neatweak]

hahaha are you giving up on the newbiee. lol

 

[adwilk]

My personal experience with PA monitors like those is they don't happily stay right around their rated impedance, they go everywhere. Receiver aren't used to drive speakers like these for good reason, they get destroyed by them.

I certainly won't disagree with that. An external amplifier and some PA speakers would be perfect for the application. Getting under budget might be a different story.

Finding highly efficient speakers at that budget can be tough.

HSU bookshelf comes to mind though.. No way at all to replace all the speakers at the budget. Thats why I think just cranking a PA system is good answer.

 

[Seth=L]

hahaha are you giving up on the newbiee. lol

We didn't give up, you where right to want more power from the start. Buy my amplifier.

 

[adwilk]

For God's sakes, buy the man's amplifier.

 

[Neatweak]

ahhaah I found the listing. two questions would you be willing to make a deal outside of audiogon through paypal. and the second is that the speaker selector says it has amplifier circuitry protection, does that mean impedence matching?

 

[Seth=L]

ahhaah I found the listing. two questions would you be willing to make a deal outside of audiogon through paypal. and the second is that the speaker selector says it has amplifier circuitry protection, does that mean impedence matching?

I believe so, since that is what protects the amplifier.

 

[MatthewB.]

I own a SS4 and SS6 and yes Monster designed it to not decrease the ohms no matter how many pairs of speakers you hook up to it. It's manual claims it's internal capicitors will give equal power (what it's being fed will be whats coming out. I have my doubts on that one personally), but that's what Monster claims and they never lie (snort Ha-Ha).

Anyway as mentioned your reciever cannot be used with an external amp so it doesnt matter, you can either buy a new reciever that allows external amps to be hooked up or buy more efficient speakers. As long as the the setup you are using isnt distorting or clipping and you are using it at Frat levels (Phi kappa Psi man here) then you'll be fine. I threw hundreds of parties in college (it's how me and my two roomies helped pay for college) and we only had two giant Pioneer speakers with 12" woofers that blasted our rather large apartment to insane levels with just a stereo setup.

 

[Neatweak]

So while I was thinking about all of this, I was wondering does it make more sense to save up and buy a multi zone amp. I have been looking at prices for the last 6 months or so and I know that they are preatty expensive, but if I am going to do this, I think that is makes the most sense to do it right.

 

[Rickster71]

Just my two cents: That Monster SS4 speaker selector can only handle an input of 150w max.

 

[highfigh]

I own a SS4 and SS6 and yes Monster designed it to not decrease the ohms no matter how many pairs of speakers you hook up to it. It's manual claims it's internal capicitors will give equal power (what it's being fed will be whats coming out. I have my doubts on that one personally), but that's what Monster claims and they never lie (snort Ha-Ha).

Anyway as mentioned your reciever cannot be used with an external amp so it doesnt matter, you can either buy a new reciever that allows external amps to be hooked up or buy more efficient speakers. As long as the the setup you are using isnt distorting or clipping and you are using it at Frat levels (Phi kappa Psi man here) then you'll be fine. I threw hundreds of parties in college (it's how me and my two roomies helped pay for college) and we only had two giant Pioneer speakers with 12" woofers that blasted our rather large apartment to insane levels with just a stereo setup.

Monster didn't have anything to do with the design- SS-4, SS-6, etc are generic model numbers used by just about all of the companies that sell those. If you look inside of a Jamo, Niles, Audio Source, Monster and most others, they're the same but the cosmetics are different.

Capacitors maintain constant power? Really? I wonder how they do this- it's not like this is a DC power supply and the caps are for stiffening the battery voltage. These usually have transformers for impedance maintenance, although some have resistors instead (these get much hotter).

 

[Neatweak]

I got my Adcom GFA 5400, I will be testing it in the system tommorow!!

 

[JerryLove]

Capacitors maintain constant power? Really? I wonder how they do this-

Well, I don't know what they are used for in this application: but in general a capacitor can be viewed as a battery. Power goes in, power comes out. Power can be pulled out at a steady rate, even if the power going in is not at a steady rate: much like how the battery in an automobile keeps the electrical power constant even though the alternator is inconsistant.

It does, of course, require that the average power coming in meets or exceeds the constant power out (plus losses to inefficiency)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor#Energy_storage_2

I suspect you knew all this and there's something I don't know about this application that makes your question have no answer.

 

[Seth=L]

I got my Adcom GFA 5400, I will be testing it in the system tommorow!!

Where did you get one?

 

[Seth=L]

Well, I don't know what they are used for in this application: but in general a capacitor can be viewed as a battery. Power goes in, power comes out. Power can be pulled out at a steady rate, even if the power going in is not at a steady rate: much like how the battery in an automobile keeps the electrical power constant even though the alternator is inconsistant.

It does, of course, require that the average power coming in meets or exceeds the constant power out (plus losses to inefficiency)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor#Energy_storage_2

I suspect you knew all this and there's something I don't know about this application that makes your question have no answer.

Capacitors are basically high voltage batteries, they can release energy much faster than a battery.