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isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
If Deezer Spotify YouTube SiriusXM are garbage sources, I am assuming that streaming them through an Nvidia Shield over a ROKU or a Chromecast will not really improve anything, correct?

You have already been told by me and a few others that you would need to upgrade your services to warrant using the Shield.
And you were told that the Shield has a better quality output for that usecase....a ROKU doesn't do HD audio service streaming...especially an ancient ROKU like yours.
If you are not going to get a better source...do nothing. Set up 10 systems in one room if you want.

Once again you are running around in circles.
Honestly, you remind me of the many Autistic Spectrum Disorder clients I had in the last 20 years of my career in mental health. Back and Forth, and Back and Forth with no progress.

We are on ten pages now of trying to make you learn something, and it aint happening.
I'm putting you and this topic on Ignore now...you are wasting vast amounts of my time anyhow.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
Correct. Of those I only use YouTube and it actually sounds very good. I think that is because their codec is so good.
The Opus codec YouTube uses can sound very good...much better than Spotify, Deezer codecs.

Examples of pretty good YouTube audio channels.

 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
The Opus codec YouTube uses can sound very good...much better than Spotify, Deezer codecs.

Examples of pretty good YouTube audio channels.

Better than Ogg Vorbis?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Apparently, Opus is the new version of Ogg Vorbis made by the same developers.
It's claimed to be better.
Opus wasn't familiar but good to know. Then again you need the better subscription level generally with the streamers to get the better codec....or to avoid commercials with youtube, not sure if the codec changes.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Opus wasn't familiar but good to know. Then again you need the better subscription level generally with the streamers to get the better codec....or to avoid commercials with youtube, not sure if the codec changes.
free version is very annoying but I can’t afford premium yet. Gotta manually skip commercials they are annoying.
Current system is the following:
Sony TV
Onkyo 7 channel AVR
Wharfedle Book shelf speakers
ROKU and a Chromecast streaming music apps. (Spotify, SiriusXM, Deezer, youTube).
I will at the very least get a 2nd set of speakers as my 1st step.
you can run two brands at once with all channels stereo mode if you want . Although it might sound weird. I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish. You have a. Good brand.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
free version is very annoying but I can’t afford premium yet. Gotta manually skip commercials they are annoying.

you can run two brands at once with all channels stereo mode if you want . Although it might sound weird. I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish. You have a. Good brand.
Good grief, still living in your parents' basement? Still can't find a job?
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Good grief, still living in your parents' basement? Still can't find a job?
Still in training can’t guarantee it I can do it or not but I’m learning , probably need a better job to be able to afford to move out plus I need another used car mine broke and wasn’t worth fixing . Too much debt also. Most jobs here are part time. And low pay. but I’m trying to do something.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Still in training can’t guarantee it I can do it or not but I’m learning , probably need a better job to be able to afford to move out plus I need another used car mine broke and wasn’t worth fixing . Too much debt also. Most jobs here are part time. And low pay. but I’m trying to do something.
You're just really slow at it? It's been years....
 
T

Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
You might have answered this before, but again, the thread is 10 pages. Does the Nvidia Shield output a higher quality digital sound than ROKU and Chromecast? Higher resolution bit rate etc etc?
The quality is not better or worse. The Nvidia Shield TV Pro is a very customizable device. Many use it to play audio and video files from their own collection of files. It supports 4K HDR and Dolby Vision from video streaming services and 24/192 from select music streaming services. If you are happy with the Roku, you will be fine with the Shield. Though, signing into Google with an account is required using the Shield and setting it up can be a daunting affair depending on the amount of customizing one chooses to do with it. I've got mine where I want it, but it took some time to do it.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
You're just really slow at it? It's been years....
I wasn’t applying because I was unable to stand long enough. No desk jobs here I’m qualified for.
Now my knee pain is gone but my feet hurt so bad. So I’m limited we’re I can apply . At this point I’m just going to get a doctors note because I need work experience . So giving up isn’t an option. I just started a few weeks ago.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
Opus wasn't familiar but good to know. Then again you need the better subscription level generally with the streamers to get the better codec....or to avoid commercials with youtube, not sure if the codec changes.
That SmartTube link I posted for you a few weeks ago gives you control of the codecs you use and no commercials...for free.
(doesn't work on ROKU since ROKU sucks !)

 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
Still in training can’t guarantee it I can do it or not but I’m learning , probably need a better job to be able to afford to move out plus I need another used car mine broke and wasn’t worth fixing . Too much debt also. Most jobs here are part time. And low pay. but I’m trying to do something.
Well, this just about the worst time in US history to be destitute/poor/option limited....any programs to assist those in your situation are going to disappear soon.

Too bad you didn't get sorted out before Nov 6th, 2024.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Overall my thoughts summarizing this thread....somehow 2ch audio gear seems to have been sold to OP as "better"
That SmartTube link I posted for you a few weeks ago gives you control of the codecs you use and no commercials...for free.
(doesn't work on ROKU since ROKU sucks !)

LOL I guess I didn't dig into it then :)
 
H

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Now we are getting some where. Agreed, my ROKU is a "garbage source." Is there a "NON garbage source" streamer/player out there that has the feature that allows the user to interface with a remote control and a smart TV screen?
What makes the Roku a 'garbage source'?

You need to look for what is available, not for something that you want, which might not be available.

If you find something that shows on the display, the question remains- how will you control it?

If you will use an app or laptop, you may as well pick something like the MusicCast and cast the screen to the TV (assuming it's a smart TV).

FWIW, the WXC-50 can stream using:

Napster, Sirius, Pandora, Spotify, AirPlay, Tidal, Deezer, Server, NetRadio, Bluetooth, USB drive, Optical input, Aux input (analog).
 
H

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Comb filtering is what would happen if you ran two systems together at the same time playing the same thing.
Or two sets of speakers playing at the same time on the same system.
Bad idea and bad result.
It could happen from that, but comb filtering usually happens when the energy from two drivers or reflecting areas intersect at one point in space where a listener or measurement mic is located. This is a main reason for making sure the first reflection areas don't reflect most of the energy- even if only one driver is used, the direct and reflected sound will interfere. It's the cause of problems when the incident sound and reflected sound interfere with each other and it's also called 'constructive interference' or 'destructive interference' or when a sub & main speakers produce energy in the same band and it reaches the listener or mic at different times.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
What makes the Roku a 'garbage source'?

You need to look for what is available, not for something that you want, which might not be available.

If you find something that shows on the display, the question remains- how will you control it?

If you will use an app or laptop, you may as well pick something like the MusicCast and cast the screen to the TV (assuming it's a smart TV).

FWIW, the WXC-50 can stream using:

Napster, Sirius, Pandora, Spotify, AirPlay, Tidal, Deezer, Server, NetRadio, Bluetooth, USB drive, Optical input, Aux input (analog).
Thanks again.
I was hoping to avoid casting from a smart phone to TV. I never liked it. I actually enjoy the interface ROKU/Chromecast provides when streaming SiriusXM/Spotify/Deezer/YouTube. After getting some advice from this forum, I was informed that the ROKU/Chromecast stream a lower quality digital audio signal. So I kept searching for something other than a ROKU, because I tought a dedicated music streamer/player sent a higher quality audio signal. I still wished the new streamer/player to provide an on TV screen interface for the user.

Anyway, I guess no one knows of a dedicated digital streamer/music player with a feature that allows the user to interface on the smart TV screen by using the streamer/player remote.
Oh well.....
Once again, I appreciate EVERYONE'S advice from this these threads.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
The quality is not better or worse. The Nvidia Shield TV Pro is a very customizable device. Many use it to play audio and video files from their own collection of files. It supports 4K HDR and Dolby Vision from video streaming services and 24/192 from select music streaming services. If you are happy with the Roku, you will be fine with the Shield. Though, signing into Google with an account is required using the Shield and setting it up can be a daunting affair depending on the amount of customizing one chooses to do with it. I've got mine where I want it, but it took some time to do it.

Thanks again. Appreciated.
Regarding the dedicated music streamer/player with the on smart TV screen interface: I assume know one knows if one actually exists.
Again, I appreciate the Nvidia Shield TV Pro suggestion. I am gonna try it out. Cheers.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
free version is very annoying but I can’t afford premium yet. Gotta manually skip commercials they are annoying.

you can run two brands at once with all channels stereo mode if you want . Although it might sound weird. I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish. You have a. Good brand.
I wanted to create 2 separate systems in the same room for the sake of having 2 different systems.
Anyway, I guess no one knows of a dedicated digital streamer/music player with a feature that allows the user to interface on the smart TV screen by using the streamer/player remote.
Oh well.....
Once again, I appreciate EVERYONE'S advice from this these threads. Cheers.
 
J

JCanada

Audioholic
You have already been told by me and a few others that you would need to upgrade your services to warrant using the Shield.
And you were told that the Shield has a better quality output for that usecase....a ROKU doesn't do HD audio service streaming...especially an ancient ROKU like yours.
If you are not going to get a better source...do nothing. Set up 10 systems in one room if you want.

Once again you are running around in circles.
Honestly, you remind me of the many Autistic Spectrum Disorder clients I had in the last 20 years of my career in mental health. Back and Forth, and Back and Forth with no progress.

We are on ten pages now of trying to make you learn something, and it aint happening.
I'm putting you and this topic on Ignore now...you are wasting vast amounts of my time anyhow.
Thank you once again Dr. Freud. Even though your mental health advice was UNSOLICITED, it is still appreciated.
I guess you still do not know of a dedicated digital streamer/music player with a feature that allows the user to interface on the smart TV screen by using the streamer/player remote.
Oh well.....
Once again, I thank you for the unsolicited and unqualified "Mc-nalysis."
DO TRY to apply some of your vast psychiatric skills on yourself, Sigmund.....REGARDS.
 
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