Do you know where I can find an AMP like this one?

[JCanada]

Still would like to help but need the model numbers of each piece of equipment. It isn’t enough to say Onkyo 7 channel receiver and Roku. How about that TV and subwoofer?

Sony Smart TV and a Monitor Audio sub.

 

[Trebdp83]

Each of your devices will have a model number. There are lots of different Sony TVs, Onkyo 7 channel receivers and Rokus. There are different feature sets for different models of each. Without them, everybody is just shooting in the dark and will be little help to you.

 

[TLS Guy]

If you want, I can send contact info for someone who called me about repairing the woofers in his B&W 802 speakers- the original ones. He said he was using a Parasound JC5 power amp and he listens at high SPL, which goes along with my comment to him about power killing woofers. He also volunteered the name of the dealer who sent a tech out to check them and it's someone I know, so contacting him was one of the first things I did this morning. I suspected the owner of the speakers is a wingnut and my friend verified that for me.
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I have encountered that problem before. If driven hard the VCs of those 802Ds blow regularly. I have known about this from their dealer Hi-Fi Sound. I could not help them or your contact. The VCs of these units blow quite often, probably because the impedance is only 3 ohms right across the bass power band. So VC current is high and heat production goes up by the square of the current. So the only repair would be reconing. However reconing kits have never been available for those drivers.

However new drivers are still available from Encompass.

Price is $390.95 each. If he needs all four, and seems when this happens all four are usually blown, then the price tag is $1,563.80. Only he can decide if it is worth it. There is no other option.

 

[isolar8001]

I have used the TV's optical out before. I have heard that if you are streaming a music app with high resolution/high quality audio, the optical cable will limit the bit rate/resolution/quality etc...

Wrong. Optical can handle 24/192 audio.

What will limit that is the OS of the tv set/model number....which you refuse to give.
And you have already stated you don't subscribe to the "better/high quality" versions of your streaming sources.

You are wasting everyone's time here.
This thread has descended into plain silliness.

 

[TLS Guy]

Wrong. Optical can handle 24/192 audio.

What will limit that is the OS of the tv set/model number....which you refuse to give.
And you have already stated you don't subscribe to the "better/high quality" versions of your streaming sources.

You are wasting everyone's time here.
This thread has descended into plain silliness.

It was from day one. The OP is in the happily mad category, so we can just get a few laughs out of it. He is not alone, as this sort of silliness is pervasive. Most of these types are generally not so persevering here as we don't encourage or feed lunacy. That preserves the integrity of these forums and minimizes the effort of debunking nonsense.

These forums will remain a source of reliable informations as long as we never give credence to lunacy, whether of the happy variety or otherwise.

 

[highfigh]

That's because most streaming devices that are best for music won't be connected to a TV. The ones made for videos will, so they have the interface. The audio streamers like the MUsucCast aren't made for surround sound, so it's natural that they won't have a video output.

BTW- you seem to be looking at the optical in the direction where the Yamaha is sending something to the TV- it's not, the signal is going TO the Yamaha FROM the TV. Smart TVs should be thought of as a source for audio when their apps are being used.

I have used the TV's optical out before. I have heard that if you are streaming a music app with high resolution/high quality audio, the optical cable will limit the bit rate/resolution/quality etc...That's why I am searching for a streamer/player that can output a higher quality audio signal. Higher than what my ROKU or Chromecast can output. I am also assuming that the Nvidia Shield outputs the same quality of audio as the ROKU, Chromecast.
Maybe the optical cable of my existing set-up out is enough. Not sure. Higher bit rate/digital outputs ould be "audio Tom-Foolery."
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If the optical out matches Redbook, it will do 44.1KHz/16Bit- how much better can you actually hear?

"I have heard...." is heresay and we all know that's not admissable in court, so why should it make us believe something we haven't heard for ourselves? I have heard that fancy cables with spare parts make the sound better but haven't heard the improvements for myself. I had also read that using a green Magic Marker to color the edge of CDs makes them sound better- does that seem logical? I heard an explanation after I mentioned it to an AudioQuest salesman and he offered some BS about it helping the error correction work less, but when I worked at a stereo store that was one of the first 50 Sony CD player dealers in the US, we placed a wedge of black electrical tape on a few CDs, to see if the player would skip or show some effect from it- it started at a point at the innermost track and IIRC, it was about 1/2" wide at the outer track, but it didn't block the Table of Contents. It didn't matter if it was there, or not.

Listen to the sound and equipment, not so much to opinions. Where did you hear this? The CD/DVD/BD disc may be HQ high bit rate, but where is the point that reduces it to what we can hear? You can have a 96KHz or 192KHz sampling rate, but that isn't what we're hearing- that's only used so the filters won't produce as much effect before digital conversion and even then, the 20KHz limit in the original CD format is higher than most people can hear, certainly after they reach middle age and have been exposed to a lot of noise, loud music, etc.

My recommendation- buy a Roku if you don't have one and listen to any channels that provide music. Listen without prejudice and do it with your eyes closed, so you can' see what's producing the sound. If you can honestly say that the sound isn't good enough,

 

[highfigh]

I have encountered that problem before. If driven hard the VCs of those 802Ds blow regularly. I have known about this from their dealer Hi-Fi Sound. I could not help them or your contact. The VCs of these units blow quite often, probably because the impedance is only 3 ohms right across the bass power band. So VC current is high and heat production goes up by the square of the current. So the only repair would be reconing. However reconing kits have never been available for those drivers.

However new drivers are still available from Encompass.

Price is $390.95 each. If he needs all four, and seems when this happens all four are usually blown, then the price tag is $1,563.80. Only he can decide if it is worth it. There is no other option.

I wasn't actually asking you to help- I think I mentioned that I spoke with the tech who checked the speakers- his description of the place and the speaker owner were what I suspected and all I needed to know to avoid going.

WOW! I didn't know they're available but are the 800.

Still, I'm not sure I want to do it.

 

[TLS Guy]

I wasn't actually asking you to help- I think I mentioned that I spoke with the tech who checked the speakers- his description of the place and the speaker owner were what I suspected and all I needed to know to avoid going.

WOW! I didn't know they're available but are the 800.

Still, I'm not sure I want to do it.

Yes, those drivers are for the 802 series.

 

[highfigh]

Yes, those drivers are for the 802 series.

His are the older model- 800. Most people grow out of playing the music so loud, but not that guy.

 

[TLS Guy]

His are the older model- 800. Most people grow out of playing the music so loud, but not that guy.

If he has the old ones with the yellow Kevlar drivers he is out of luck. His speakers are then a recycling job.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah, maybe I am guilty once again on having a lack of knowledge on the subject.
That's why I came to this forum, so the "Anointed Ones Who Possess Audio Gear Knowledge" can give me an education.
Thanks again.

I'm more curious where you got the notion there will be a benefit from having the separate 2ch system in the same room. What speakers do you have/are considering? Doesn't sound like electronics are getting in the way of anything at this point, tho other than your desire to consume

 

[highfigh]

If he has the old ones with the yellow Kevlar drivers he is out of luck. His speakers are then a recycling job.

To be honest, he's a recycling job, too- his place was described as having a thick haze of smoke by my friend who checked them the first time and that was almost 1-1/2 years ago.

 

[JCanada]

I'm more curious where you got the notion there will be a benefit from having the separate 2ch system in the same room. What speakers do you have/are considering? Doesn't sound like electronics are getting in the way of anything at this point, tho other than your desire to consume

"...desire to consume..."
I admit it. That is what I am aiming for. Collecting, accumulating, consuming. I do not see anything wrong with it.
I do not see much "wrong" with mycurrent set-up, & I don't really think anything is the way either. I just like the "collection/accumulation" asthetic aspect of this hobby. I enjoy staring at Walnut finished speakers, and I like the look of certain styles of amps. Guilty again. The general look of multiple systems in the same room appealed to me. Again, I see nothing wrong with this aspect of the hobby. I know a few dudes with multiple system setups. I liked the look.
Currently, I am looking at 3 different speakers. I will pull the trigger on the 1st deal I get.
Wharfedale AURA 4's
Dynaudio Evoke 50's.
Acoustic Energy E520's.
i am trying to get a custom pair made from PNB Audio, but the details are a bit "tricky" to say the least. I have a partuicualr budget in mind for my next pair of speakers. Shipping is problematic as well.

 

[JCanada]

I have used the TV's optical out before. I have heard that if you are streaming a music app with high resolution/high quality audio, the optical cable will limit the bit rate/resolution/quality etc...That's why I am searching for a streamer/player that can output a higher quality audio signal. Higher than what my ROKU or Chromecast can output. I am also assuming that the Nvidia Shield outputs the same quality of audio as the ROKU, Chromecast.
Maybe the optical cable of my existing set-up out is enough. Not sure. Higher bit rate/digital outputs ould be "audio Tom-Foolery."

If the optical out matches Redbook, it will do 44.1KHz/16Bit- how much better can you actually hear?

"I have heard...." is heresay and we all know that's not admissable in court, so why should it make us believe something we haven't heard for ourselves? I have heard that fancy cables with spare parts make the sound better but haven't heard the improvements for myself. I had also read that using a green Magic Marker to color the edge of CDs makes them sound better- does that seem logical? I heard an explanation after I mentioned it to an AudioQuest salesman and he offered some BS about it helping the error correction work less, but when I worked at a stereo store that was one of the first 50 Sony CD player dealers in the US, we placed a wedge of black electrical tape on a few CDs, to see if the player would skip or show some effect from it- it started at a point at the innermost track and IIRC, it was about 1/2" wide at the outer track, but it didn't block the Table of Contents. It didn't matter if it was there, or not.

Listen to the sound and equipment, not so much to opinions. Where did you hear this? The CD/DVD/BD disc may be HQ high bit rate, but where is the point that reduces it to what we can hear? You can have a 96KHz or 192KHz sampling rate, but that isn't what we're hearing- that's only used so the filters won't produce as much effect before digital conversion and even then, the 20KHz limit in the original CD format is higher than most people can hear, certainly after they reach middle age and have been exposed to a lot of noise, loud music, etc.

My recommendation- buy a Roku if you don't have one and listen to any channels that provide music. Listen without prejudice and do it with your eyes closed, so you can' see what's producing the sound. If you can honestly say that the sound isn't good enough,
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I followed some of your advice. I noticed my ROKU has an option in the the settings/setup for specific 2 channel listening. I never koew of this feature before. Another issue I ran into was audio spec/quality/output. How would I know what level of optical out is the ROKU passing/outputting?
The ROKU alos has a separate optical out. I never used this before. I only used the HDMI out from the ROKU to the TV.

 

[JCanada]

Wrong. Optical can handle 24/192 audio.

What will limit that is the OS of the tv set/model number....which you refuse to give.
And you have already stated you don't subscribe to the "better/high quality" versions of your streaming sources.

You are wasting everyone's time here.
This thread has descended into plain silliness.

So sorry to waste your valuable time dear sir with my "silliness.' Do forgive my ignorance, master. May I beg you to not have me lashed, flogged or whipped by the audiophile anointed ones?
Again, please excuse my ignorance sir...I am but a meager peasant in these "anointed audiophile lands."

 

[JCanada]

Each of your devices will have a model number. There are lots of different Sony TVs, Onkyo 7 channel receivers and Rokus. There are different feature sets for different models of each. Without them, everybody is just shooting in the dark and will be little help to you.

TV: Sony KD-65X750F
AVR: ONKYO TX-RZ820

 

[Trebdp83]

Thanks for that information. What about the Monitor Subwoofer? Has it RCA Outputs as well as Inputs?

 

[TLS Guy]

"...desire to consume..."
I admit it. That is what I am aiming for. Collecting, accumulating, consuming. I do not see anything wrong with it.
I do not see much "wrong" with mycurrent set-up, & I don't really think anything is the way either. I just like the "collection/accumulation" asthetic aspect of this hobby. I enjoy staring at Walnut finished speakers, and I like the look of certain styles of amps. Guilty again. The general look of multiple systems in the same room appealed to me. Again, I see nothing wrong with this aspect of the hobby. I know a few dudes with multiple system setups. I liked the look.
Currently, I am looking at 3 different speakers. I will pull the trigger on the 1st deal I get.
Wharfedale AURA 4's
Dynaudio Evoke 50's.
Acoustic Energy E520's.
i am trying to get a custom pair made from PNB Audio, but the details are a bit "tricky" to say the least. I have a partuicualr budget in mind for my next pair of speakers. Shipping is problematic as well.

Collecting is one thing, but a jumble is another. Plugging a bunch of wires in an out is not a good way of showing and demonstrating older collected equipment.

I have a large collection of interesting older equipment, which visitors can hear at the flick of a few switches buttons and knobs.

Most of it I have had since new, but a few are restorations and I have bought a very few pieces of vintage gear. I guess all of my power amps are now vintage.

Equipment in main AV room. New and old.

Vintage power amps.

AV room turntable case.

It can even play 78 RPM with the correct Eq curves. If you like tubes you have them there. Tube preamp I bought 59 years ago.

I have a large collection of discs, that I started buying 70 years ago. I also have quite a few reel to reel tapes and some Cassettes. I also have rare Dolby B and dbx1 tapes and a some dbx encoded LPs.

The point is that I can play and demonstrate it all without any messing with wires. That is important.

There is also some vintage gear in our family room, the Thorens turntable is a restoration I did.

All but two of the reel to reel recorder are restorations. The Revox A700 and the Brenell MK 6 I have had since new. The Brenell machine is incredibly rare.

So I have nothing against vintage gear or our current offerings.

The last point I would make, is that the old and the new can exist and play in harmony very well. However you need to design it that way. Like all things in life it "has to be right by design."

 

[lovinthehd]

"...desire to consume..."
I admit it. That is what I am aiming for. Collecting, accumulating, consuming. I do not see anything wrong with it.
I do not see much "wrong" with mycurrent set-up, & I don't really think anything is the way either. I just like the "collection/accumulation" asthetic aspect of this hobby. I enjoy staring at Walnut finished speakers, and I like the look of certain styles of amps. Guilty again. The general look of multiple systems in the same room appealed to me. Again, I see nothing wrong with this aspect of the hobby. I know a few dudes with multiple system setups. I liked the look.
Currently, I am looking at 3 different speakers. I will pull the trigger on the 1st deal I get.
Wharfedale AURA 4's
Dynaudio Evoke 50's.
Acoustic Energy E520's.
i am trying to get a custom pair made from PNB Audio, but the details are a bit "tricky" to say the least. I have a partuicualr budget in mind for my next pair of speakers. Shipping is problematic as well.

Just checking . I use different rooms for my accumulated gear. One system per room is fine.

 

[isolar8001]

Currently, I am looking at 3 different speakers. I will pull the trigger on the 1st deal I get.
Wharfedale AURA 4's
Dynaudio Evoke 50's.
Acoustic Energy E520's.

MeThinks you is full of it.
You state 3 pairs of 5000 dollar speakers (probably Googled 5000 dollar speakers), yet you state your only music source is low-fi streaming services piped through a ROKU of all things.

Makes very little sense...but, little you have said makes any sense.