Do some amps have a warmer sound than others?

[wire]

Didn't he accomplish this by a nice fat 1 Ohm resistor in the output path and bingo, the amp frequency response followed the speaker's

Go tell him that , goto You ask Bob .

http://www.carveraudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5835
Maybe he will give you the answer your looking for .

http://www.carveraudio.com/CarverChallenge

 

[wire]

I find the Onkyo's totally HOT dude......thats better than warm isn't it?

Hehe
Maybe not a very long life cycle

 

[wire]

So are we saying that Sunfire amps will have the frequency roll-off?

Sunfire TGA-5400 Amp Frequency response:
+0.16dB at 10 Hz; +0.20 dB at 20 Hz
–0.39 dB at 20 kHz; –2.72 dB at 50 kHz.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/poweramplifiers/1106sunfiretgptga/index1.html

It looks to me that the FR is pretty flat (20 Hz - 20 kHz +/- 0.39dB). I don't see the 'roll-off" on the FR.

Check this out AcuDef
http://www.carveraudio.com/CarverChallenge
Or again ask him the Question directy @ the link above .

 

[wire]

Didn't he accomplish this by a nice fat 1 Ohm resistor in the output path and bingo, the amp frequency response followed the speaker's

This is also interesting

Q: I'll never forget the Stereophile review where you Bob Carver would take your solid state amp and modify it to sound exactly like a tube amp. I doubt it did. A friend of mine bought a 1.5T amp and at low volume it sounded fair which I assume was that Wima cap in the feedback loop but at higher volume it seemed to roll off the highs and lows and basically screamed a harsh sounding midrange. We modified the heck out of it but never got it sounding great. I'm sure this tube amp you have here sounds good. My present favorite amp is my old Audio Research D90 connected to my Acoustat electrostatics. Even though I didn't like your products I have alot of respect for you and what you tried to do. Aug-12-08
A: Hi 'dios, I came pretty close though - with a difference of three parts out of ten thousand. Read all about it! http://www.carveraudio.com/CarverChallenge. And besides, you are right about these tube amps - they are way better than the tube amps Stereophile used in The Challenge. Not to be compared. And besides, it was so long ago. Thanks 'dios - thought provoking comments, Bob Carver

 

[wire]

The OP was asking if some amps offer a warmer character than others. So the answer is yes. In talking to DannG at Emo, he tells me the RPA 1 has a warmer more detailed sound than the XPA 2 though for shere guts there's no comparison. They were going to drop the line, but enough 2 channel fans have convinced them to bring it back (at least as a month ago). There's no wrong answer, it's just a preference. Matching your front end to your speakers to attain the sound you want can take some experimentation and some choices aren't always a good fit. It's nice to know that there are options.

I totally agree with this .
My Bryston vs Carver with my SDA's , I like them both , but they sound different . I preffer my Bryston .

 

[mtrycrafts]

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Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Oh, you are such a weakling

 

[itschris]

All this talk about Carver reminds me of when I was a kid. We used to shop at the Commissary and Piax (I'm sure I spelled them wrong) at McDill Air Force base. We went there every two weeks on pay day to go food shopping.

The P-ex used to carry Carver. They had a special section and I remember seeing these stereo components costing $500. I do remember seeing tube amps and wondering what the hell those were. I must have only been about 10 years old or so.

Maybe that's why my first expensive piece equipment was the Sunfire amp I have. Probably a subconscience decision since I always thought the Carver stuff looked so cool.

 

[annunaki]

I kind of feel the same way about my Denon vs Acurus: I felt like the Denon was less fatiguing. The volume I listen to (~ 85dB A) is about the same with both amps. But for some reasons (placebo or not) I just feel like the Denon is less fatiguing. With the Acurus I felt a little exhausted after 2 hrs, but with the Denon I could listen for 4 hrs and not be exhausted.

Like you said, it's very SUBJECTIVE, and I wouldn't go against the editors of The Audio Critic or Audioholics. But the important thing is to like what we HEAR and stick with what we PREFER, even if it's all subjective.

Chances are, one amplifer is struggling a bit more than the other with dynamic capability adding more distortion to the signal. Of course the results would have to be repeatable and measurements taken to confirm, but that would be my assumation.