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[Chu Gai]

Chu Gai,

I have a question if you don't mind. When you verified the raffle donations (or lack thereof) did you specify the donation under one name (Perpetual Technologies) or did you ask if a donation was given by any of a series of names (MLS, AV123, Perpetual Tech, The Graham Co, Suzanne Johnson, Lynn, etc)?

Based off of your comments regarding the Red Cross and the Katrina raffles it sounds like you did, and you are usually very diligent, but I just wanted to verify for the sake of completeness.

Thank you.

I'll post the full email exchanges (redacted) later this morning. Another person, independent of me is also making local inquiries.

 

[Chu Gai]

The person who did the legwork on my behalf states that the initial inquiry was done by going to Ballet Nouveau's website (www.bncdance.com) and using the Contact option to fill out a form. The form did not result in a copy sent to the inquirer nor did they think to save a copy of either the webpage or the actual message. They believe they only asked about MLS, his wife, and AV123/Perpetual Technologies. Neither Graham Company nor Suzanne Johnson were part of the initial inquiry they recall. This oversight if you will, did not occur in correspondence with the American Red Cross (national) or with the local Colorado branch.

The Graham Company was a way for MLS to 'bypass' AV123 if you will and sell electronics which were typically bundled with speaker purchases. The electronics were bought from a distributor and through back door maneuvers, the distributor handled any warranty issues. IOW, the electronics could not be serviced at places that handled authorized purchases since the Graham Company was by and large, not an authorized seller of products like Kenwood, H/K, Panamax and whatever else they carried. My understanding is this was quite profitable. I first read of them being mentioned in March, 2006 (http://forums.av123.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13301)


Please see, http://www.bncdance.com/in-kind-contributions/ for an explanation of what in-kind contributions are.

From: Amanda Stewart [mailto:astewart@bncdance.com]
Received: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:36 PM
To: ******
Subject: RE: Inquiry about AV 123

Hi ******,

I looked through our records and we received a donation of $7,500 from Perpetual Technologies in November 2005. It looks like that is the only cash contribution we received over the years, in addition to some in kind contributions for our annual silent auction.

Thank you for your patience while I researched this,

Amanda



Amanda Young Stewart

Development Director

BNC | ballet nouveau colorado



3001 Industrial Lane, #12

Broomfield, Colorado 80020

Phone: 303.466.5685

Fax: 303.466.3776

Email: astewart@bncdance.com

Web: www.bncdance.com



From: ******
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:15 AM
To: Amanda Stewart
Subject: RE: Inquiry about AV 123

Thank you Amanda for responding. If I were to give you a particular date or two as well as approximate amounts is that something that is within your ability to verify?




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From: Amanda Stewart [mailto:astewart@bncdance.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:56 PM
To: ******
Subject: Inquiry about AV 123

Hi ******,

I received your inquiry about donations from AV 123 / Perpetual Technologies. Yes, we know Mark and his company, and yes, we have received donations from them over the years.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.



Best regards,

Amanda



Amanda Young Stewart

Development Director

BNC | ballet nouveau colorado

3001 Industrial Lane, #12

Broomfield, Colorado 80020

Phone: 303.466.5685

Fax: 303.466.3776

Email: astewart@bncdance.com

Web: www.bncdance.com

 

[picture_shooter]

I personally met Mark in Oct. 2005 at a GTG in Austin, TX. He was planning on purchasing a new Ferrari and invited me to ride with him from California to Colorado when he picked it up in March/April 2006. Not sure if he ever got the Ferrari.

So you never got the ride from California to Colorado?

I'm sure he had or preferred having a hot lady in the passenger side

 

[Chu Gai]

Curtis was Schiftered

 

[david-me]

Curtis was Schiftered

Its the Schifter Shuffle!

Watch the raffle money close as I put it under this cup.
Now watch closely as I move the cups around!

 

[Chu Gai]

Btw,

All Mark has to do to refute any of this is to contact this woman, Amanda, provide her with documentation that she can then cross reference, and then she can email Mark back confirming the dates and amounts. It doesn't get any simpler than that. While I'm waiting for Red Cross replies, I think I'll pick another organization. There must be one out there that got all the money.

 

[MinusTheBear]

All Mark has to do to refute any of this is to contact this woman, Amanda, provide her with documentation that she can then cross reference, and then she can email Mark back confirming the dates and amounts. It doesn't get any simpler than that. While I'm waiting for Red Cross replies, I think I'll pick another organization. There must be one out there that got all the money.

Excellent point. If he can refute this that all raffle funds where received by the ballet company that would help his cause tremendously. And if the information comes from the ballet company it is all more credible. This would be the time for him to step up.

 

[cschang]

Curtis was Schiftered

.....never said I accepted the offer

 

[david-me]

.....never said I accepted the offer

Schiftered if you do... Schiftered if you don't

 

[david-me]

I just realized I had a post deleted on the av123 forums...
In the "Open for interpretation" thread about censorship none-the-less.

 

[cschang]

I just realized I had a post deleted on the av123 forums...
In the "Open for interpretation" thread about censorship none-the-less.

I guess you were being a trouble maker.

 

[gonk]

I just realized I had a post deleted on the av123 forums...
In the "Open for interpretation" thread about censorship none-the-less.

Django had one deleted, too. I don't think they liked the links to this thread, even though django's was directly on-topic (since Jess commented a couple times about posts made about him in this thread as an example of personal attacks).

 

[gonk]

Here's what django1 posted:

Gonk,

I agree with you on most of this. I did, however, get ripped by Mr. Gai on the AH thread for my thoughts.

But it's OK, I even agreed with him on some points, but his style is to crush anyone who he doesn't think is on board with him.

Here's a link to the thread. That way people can decide for themselves if he "crushed" you... http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53755

David-me added the following:

Here's a link to the thread. That way people can decide for themselves if he "crushed" you... http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53755

brave of you posting that link

Both posts have now been removed.

 

[Chu Gai]

That's all he's ever had to do, Minus. Each raffle as it's investigated and the proceeds are found to be either shorted or not donated at all, resound with a devastating effect and paint an entirely different picture of the man that's in stark contrast to his public persona. Dare I say anyone who works for him in full knowledge of these misdeeds, their ever increasing number, the widening time line, can rightfully speculate how the stain affects them.

As it stands now, Mark Schifter has preyed upon and violated the trust of a colleague in the audio world whose father was dying of cancer - David Fabrikant. He's preyed upon and violated the exploited the trust of Derek Wayland and his daughter who struggled and continues to struggle through quite serious medical problems. Can you imagine that family worrying about how they'll be able to pay medical bills as their daughter's life and future prognosis may hinge upon that? Imagine the relief they experience when they hear a large amount of money is coming from a man who is sympathetic to their plight and then finding out only a small amount arrived and it was late? He has violated the trust of a man named Hugh, a close friend whose best friend in the world was dying and subsequently died of cancer. Not a penny. He has violated and exploited the Ballet company his granddaughter dances for. $1 for them. $3 for him.

Colleagues, friends and family have been used as lures. Who is left? Sworn enemies of the United States?

 

[gonk]

I just realized I had a post deleted on the av123 forums...
In the "Open for interpretation" thread about censorship none-the-less.

You're more confused than you thought. I'm told that you deleted your own post this morning. So did django1.

 

[Chu Gai]

You're more confused than you thought. I'm told that you deleted your own post this morning. So did django1.

People doing things through thought control and having no memory of doing it? Why, that's them thar aliens I tell you!

 

[david-me]

You're more confused than you thought. I'm told that you deleted your own post this morning. So did django1.

ok. I put mine back...

 

[gonk]

ok. I put mine back...

Came in right behind you...

 

[droht]

Chu, any chance you can get your hands on some Rockets and put a review together? I'd like to see you enter the contest over at av123...

 

[wesley63]

The two deleted posts were the ones with links to this thread on AH. Lots of forums will delete or stop links to other sites. Of course, AV123 never was one to do that before.