Denon X4500H still good?

rockhound100bopd

rockhound100bopd

Junior Audioholic
I am putting a TV out in my shop along with some old Infiniti bookshelves. In my house am currently using a Denon x1700H for my Martin Logan motion foundation B2 shelves and center with a RSL 12s sub. I would like to move my 1700 out to the shop and get a bigger avr (watt wise) for my house. There are quite a few used 4500's out there, but am I just wasting money?

Thanks
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I am putting a TV out in my shop along with some old Infiniti bookshelves. In my house am currently using a Denon x1700H for my Martin Logan motion foundation B2 shelves and center with a RSL 12s sub. I would like to move my 1700 out to the shop and get a bigger avr (watt wise) for my house. There are quite a few used 4500's out there, but am I just wasting money?

Thanks
It may or may not be a waste of money. First thing to do is to find out how much voltage and current you need based on 4 ohms.

The 4500 offers none to very subtle difference in sound quality if the 1700 is powerful enough for you already.

The best website for online audio amp/speakers calculators seem to be Benchmark's but you may find it hard to navigate as their offering is quite comprehensive, covering many scenarios:

Benchmark System Calculator - Benchmark Media Systems

If you don't know how to use the calculators then let us know the following and we can do it:

1) Your seating distance.
2) Highest sound pressure level (SPL) you would like to listen to without hearing distortions.
3) Your speaker's sensitivity, impedance, and recommended amp power, but you told us they are MLM B2 so we can find that info from ML website. They are 5 ohms, recommended 15-100 W.
 
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saqib

Audiophyte
I am putting a TV out in my shop along with some old Infiniti bookshelves. In my house am currently using a Denon x1700H for my Martin Logan motion foundation B2 shelves and center with a RSL 12s sub. I would like to move my 1700 out to the shop and get a bigger avr (watt wise) for my house. There are quite a few used 4500's out there, but am I just wasting money?
Upgrading to a Denon X4500H can be worth it if you need more power, better pre-outs, or advanced features like Audyssey XT32 for your home setup. However, if your current setup doesn’t demand the extra power or features, it might be overkill. Used X4500H models generally range from $600-$1,000, so weigh the cost against your actual needs before upgrading.
 
rockhound100bopd

rockhound100bopd

Junior Audioholic
I guess I should have said one of the reasons for looking to upgrade my receiver is for if I would ever decide to get bigger bookshelves or towers.

I think what I might end up doing is finding another used x1700 to put in the shop to run my old Infinty Primus shelves. Also the cheaper route!
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I guess I should have said one of the reasons for looking to upgrade my receiver is for if I would ever decide to get bigger bookshelves or towers.

I think what I might end up doing is finding another used x1700 to put in the shop to run my old Infinty Primus shelves. Also the cheaper route!
Not long ago I sold my 4 months old, brand new condition X1800H for about C$550 that is US$430. If you can get one for that price range ($400-$480), it may be better than getting the X1700H because if and when you upgrade your speakers to something more demanding, you can get a cheap external power amp for say less than $200, because the X1800H has pre outs for the front L/R and the option to disconnect the internal amps for cleaner pre out signals.
 
rockhound100bopd

rockhound100bopd

Junior Audioholic
Not long ago I sold my 4 months old, brand new condition X1800H for about C$550 that is US$430. If you can get one for that price range ($400-$480), it may be better than getting the X1700H because if and when you upgrade your speakers to something more demanding, you can get a cheap external power amp for say less than $200, because the X1800H has pre outs for the front L/R and the option to disconnect the internal amps for cleaner pre out signals.
Just found/bought a used x2800h for $425. I think I'll put that in my HT for a little more power and put my older x1700h out in the shop. Now I just need to find a decent used sub to go out there.
 

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