Denon AVR-1712 vs Yamaha RX-795 for 2-channel setup?

[TLS Guy]

I'm genuinely curious. The Yamaha is new old stock from around 1999. If it was never used, what kinds of things would you expect that age would do to the electronics? I have bought new old stock electronics before that were 20-30 years old (mainly TVs) and never had an issue with them. Only on initial startup was there some wonkiness with the TVs but once they ran for a few minutes they were fine (I'm guessing the capacitors simply had to reform). I'm not discounting what you're saying. I would just like to know more specifics.

DO NOT by a 26 year old receiver. That would be a massive mistake. Caps and solid state devices deteriorate faster in some cases by not being repolarized by use. Also digital technology has been transformed since 1999. Take my word for it, the Yamaha is worthless old junk and not worth two cents.

 

[highfigh]

No....get the newer Denon.
Age does things to electronics....just like us.

I have a 47 year old Sony receiver that would like to speak with you.

 

[highfigh]

I think I would agree- pass on NOS from 1999. It can't be so inexpensive that finding a more recent model is too far out of the budget.

 

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[johnburner]

For a music-focused 2-channel setup, the Yamaha RX-795 is usually the better choice thanks to its stronger stereo output and more direct sound. The Denon AVR-1712 works well for home theater, but it’s not as engaging in pure stereo. Also, for casual gaming in free time, Super Bear Adventure 2026 is worth a look.

 

[highfigh]

No....get the newer Denon.
Age does things to electronics....just like us.

That's true, but I would say that complexity and higher tech components like ICs cause more problems than just age- I just removed my 52 year old Fischer KR 3130 receiver to make room for my 48 year old Sony stereo receiver to the workshop system, connected to my 46 year old speakers with a 25 year old DVD player. My 35+ year old Luxman CD player seems to need belts, but it still loads the discs. My 45 year old turntable is a Sony Biotracer model with lots of ICs and it still works, but it's going to be sold soon because it's just a matter of time before it's just an interesting paperweight but the receivers work great. The Fischer still sounds good, but the high frequencies aren't what I would call 'pronounced' or 'crisp', but it doesn't hum, hiss or make other bad sounds. Not bad for a 14 W/channel receiver and it actually has preamp out/in jacks and a mono output jack next to the speaker terminals and L&R mic input jacks.

I'd like to see the price for these features on a current model.

 

[highfigh]

For a music-focused 2-channel setup, the Yamaha RX-795 is usually the better choice thanks to its stronger stereo output and more direct sound. The Denon AVR-1712 works well for home theater, but it’s not as engaging in pure stereo. Also, for casual gaming in free time, Super Bear Adventure 2026 is worth a look.

Exactly, how would you define/describe 'engaging'?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

For a music-focused 2-channel setup, the Yamaha RX-795 is usually the better choice thanks to its stronger stereo output and more direct sound. The Denon AVR-1712 works well for home theater, but it’s not as engaging in pure stereo. Also, for casual gaming in free time, Super Bear Adventure 2026 is worth a look.

They both have PURE DIRECT mode, so how does the Yamaha have "more direct sound"?

Stronger Stereo output? What is the actual Stereo Power Output (2Ch) of the Yamaha compared to the Denon?

 

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