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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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It all depends. Music is transient in nature. The power supply caps handle a lot of peak power demands. Unless someone listens to music with a limited dynamic range on the "All Channel stereo" setting, even with a subwoofer the possibility of tripping a circuit breaker is remote IMO. It would be different with a circuit protected by a fuse. Circuit breakers can handle overloads for several seconds before tripping.
All true, but nonetheless, I would not want to use an AVR like that on the same circuit as another power hog.
 
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RedCharles

Full Audioholic
I was reading Gene's review, and he wrote that it could draw 25amps using all 10 channels at 170w. Basically, he was saying that it can overpower a typical 15a circuit. So I can totally see what shadyJ is talking about.
As I read Gene's review, I also learned that this thing is a space heater.
I'm going to have to take that into consideration.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I was reading Gene's review, and he wrote that it could draw 25amps using all 10 channels at 170w. Basically, he was saying that it can overpower a typical 15a circuit. So I can totally see what shadyJ is talking about.
As I read Gene's review, I also learned that this thing is a space heater.
I'm going to have to take that into consideration.
You will never run all 10 channels at 170 W unless you use the amp to power a resistor bank instead of real loudspeakers and listen to music. A 20 A dedicated line for that amp is a good idea regardless.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I was reading Gene's review, and he wrote that it could draw 25amps using all 10 channels at 170w. Basically, he was saying that it can overpower a typical 15a circuit. So I can totally see what shadyJ is talking about.
As I read Gene's review, I also learned that this thing is a space heater.
I'm going to have to take that into consideration.
Likely you're not going to use it full power ACD to pull that much power....or maybe you will :). An external fan might be a good idea, tho....
 
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RedCharles

Full Audioholic
I don't like to listen to music that loud. Getting this receiver is more akin to uhhh...uhhh...
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
I don't like to listen to music that loud. Getting this receiver is more akin to uhhh...uhhh...
If you don't listen to music that loud, then you most likely won't need a dedicated 20 amp circuit, unless you have other equipment on the same line that draws a lot of current, such as an old plasma TV which could easily draw 500 watts.

For example, with my 7 channel HT system, I use external amplification for all channels. The total rated output power of the 10 amps exceeds 1900 watts. On the same 15 amp circuit, a 12 year old plasma Panasonic TV continuously draws 400-500 watts and I have never seen the lights which also are on the same circuit dim when I play music. The maximum SPL in my case is 88-90dB.

I suggest that you verify this link with which you will find how much power you need to drive your speakers to the maximum desired SPL:

 
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Kleinst

Senior Audioholic
I don't like to listen to music that loud. Getting this receiver is more akin to uhhh...uhhh...
Do you have one or is there a 5805 available nearby? I sure as hell wouldn't spend what I see them costing on EBAY, you could get a Denon AVR with a Monolith for that price
 
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RedCharles

Full Audioholic
Do you have one or is there a 5805 available nearby? I sure as hell wouldn't spend what I see them costing on EBAY, you could get a Denon AVR with a Monolith for that price
I've seen them on ebay for around $700.
 
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RedCharles

Full Audioholic
I read your review closely, and saw that while the 5805 is arguably the greatest receiver of all time, it is a space heater, and decided against it.

I ended up getting a Pioneer SC-09. I read your review of the SC-07 and saw that the ICE amps have questionable handling of 4 ohm loads, but I read a lot in a owner's forum of the SC 09, and they seemed fine running the SC 09 with demanding 4 ohm speakers. So I took a chance. It felt good to be bad. And I've got to say the SC-09 is a huge improvement over my dying 94TXH. I didn't know I was listening to music through a wall of mud until I got the SC 09 hooked up. Very happy.
 
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