decent 5.1 powerfull hu

[Lordoftherings]

mine is the htr-5890... yamaha lied about the power rating... they claim it's 140 X 7 @ 8ohm

This is the equivalent of the RX-V1500 (2005 model), 120 watts x 7 channels.

And I would not worry about Yamaha lying about the power rating, it is only subjective anyway. And from a rating of 120 to 140, there is no big deal of a difference.

Again, check post #3 for some great suggestions. And because of your particular experience with these components (Yamaha HTR-5890 & Emotiva XPA-2), you might find my suggestions very refreshing and worthy of a serious look and consideration.

And by the way, try to work on that red chicklet!

Take care Drake,

Bob

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I would think if the OP is a musician with a good ear, he would have picked something besides Klipschs.....

 

[DRAKE]

I would think if the OP is a musician with a good ear, he would have picked something besides Klipschs.....

why wouldn't you get klipsch if you like your tunes loud with good kick-drum? a speaker that plays down to 28hrz and doesnt require a ton of power. makes sence to me.

my paradigm 100's couldnt match up

 

[Alex2507]

I would think if the OP is a musician with a good ear, he would have picked something besides Klipschs.....

Like Def Tech's ...

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Good point.....

Like Def Tech's ...

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Because I like speakers that sound good?

why wouldn't you get klipsch if you like your tunes loud with good kick-drum? a speaker that plays down to 28hrz and doesnt require a ton of power. makes sence to me.

my paradigm 100's couldnt match up

 

[DRAKE]

This is the equivalent of the RX-V1500 (2005 model), 120 watts x 7 channels.

And I would not worry about Yamaha lying about the power rating, it is only subjective anyway. And from a rating of 120 to 140, there is no big deal of a difference.

Again, check post #3 for some great suggestions. And because of your particular experience with these components (Yamaha HTR-5890 & Emotiva XPA-2), you might find my suggestions very refreshing and worthy of a serious look and consideration.

And by the way, try to work on that red chicklet!

Take care Drake,

Bob

the red chicklet came from a couple of idiots hating on me because i bashed emotiva. i would understand if i personal bashed people here and disrespected them, but that wasnt the case. pretty lame...

anyways... i like your suggestion for the onkyo TX-SR875. never owned a onkyo... what sound charateristics are they known for. i know yamaha is known for being a little on the bright side...

 

[DRAKE]

Because I like speakers that sound good?

have you listened to the rf-83's?

 

[Lordoftherings]

The True Sound = Onkyo TX-SR875.

the red chicklet came from a couple of idiots hating on me because i bashed emotiva. i would understand if i personal bashed people here and disrespected them, but that wasnt the case. pretty lame...

anyways... i like your suggestion for the onkyo TX-SR875. never owned a onkyo... what sound charateristics are they known for. i know yamaha is known for being a little on the bright side...

Well, now you got two red chickets.
You must had a defective XPA-2. But it could well happened.

Anyway, the Onkyo TX-SR875 has no sound! Which is good, because if it would have a sound, it would not be accurate.

Today, we are really after "neutral sound". A sound that is so true to the signal, that there is no sound, we cannot classify it.
Call it "The True Sound".

Don't you like that? Me, I just love it. Seriously, that is the Right Sound.

Your choice is good with the 875, and it's a great price too, so forget about Yamaha for now, and concentrate on this one, that shoult get your bolts back in orbit.

I feel for you, because now I know that you are a good guy. And those two red chicklets are tough to chew on.
But, I'm sure that you'll be able to score some green ones soon.

All right Drake, you're on the right track now, I feel it.

Bob

 

[mtrycrafts]

you know this is the only forum that digs emotiva, right? i'm a musician. i know what music is suppose to sound like. i use good wires, power conditioners, sound deadening matt, spl meters, ect.... i even measure power with a scope meter. i'm not a pro, but i know what the hell im doing. if the klipsch rf-83's play down to 28hrz and your lacking in bass there's a problem with the power supply.
emotiva=garbage

Obviously you are missing something on how to properly set up a bias controlled comparisons.
If that amp had all those issues, that would show up on the specs; you heard about specs? Can you tell us if the Fr on that amp is not flat at those bands you happen you have issues with? Or, maybe it is your speakers, your room acoustics, or your bias that is interfering?
And, that 28Hz thing. Perhaps you just don't understand that spec? How much spl can that speaker deliver with a 28Hz signal? Oh, maybe that is the issue, just not enough. And then you blame the amp.
And, just because you are a musician doesn't give you any better edge about audio, listening, etc. Oh, yes, that has been well demonstrated in proper controlled testing.

 

[mtrycrafts]

...
anyways... i like your suggestion for the onkyo TX-SR875. never owned a onkyo... what sound charateristics are they known for. i know yamaha is known for being a little on the bright side...

Actually, the Yams have that urban legend to contend with but, like other well built modern amps, they are transparent, like that Onkyo is, end of story. But, perhaps you don't want to hear that?

 

[mtrycrafts]

I seriously doubt he has an amp issue. His issue is an 8" driver he wants it to act like a true sub He needs a stand alone sub.

 

[mtrycrafts]

... that amp is lifeless... dry, lacked in bass, and highs were very harsh. ...

Impossible, period. Its frequency response is ruler flat from 20Hz-20kHz and plenty of power on a continuous basis. It may have sounded harsh as you tried to overdrive your speakers to get that 8" driver to do more than it is capable of.
Get a stand alone sub!

 

[DRAKE]

Obviously you are missing something on how to properly set up a bias controlled comparisons.
If that amp had all those issues, that would show up on the specs; you heard about specs? Can you tell us if the Fr on that amp is not flat at those bands you happen you have issues with? Or, maybe it is your speakers, your room acoustics, or your bias that is interfering?
And, that 28Hz thing. Perhaps you just don't understand that spec? How much spl can that speaker deliver with a 28Hz signal? Oh, maybe that is the issue, just not enough. And then you blame the amp.
And, just because you are a musician doesn't give you any better edge about audio, listening, etc. Oh, yes, that has been well demonstrated in proper controlled testing.

your pointing out simple trouble shooting procedures that dont have anything to do with the peformance of the speaker. i dont care if you pulled the speakers 4 feet from the wall and stood back 15 feet from the front in a room that 's 15X25 you can see plain as day that the amp lacks in bass. why did i get better bass responce with my yamaha, rotel, and dodd? pretty sad, huh? i paired that xpa-2 with a emotiva rsp-2... maybe, there was an issue with the preamp. i went through every trouble shooting procedure with emotiva before i sent it back. you think i wanted to waste $110 shipping that huge paper weight back to emotiva because i dont know what the hell im doing? i really wanted this amp to work. maybe that amp just doesnt match well with lipsch. it sure as hell isnt the speaker. my speakers sound great with dodd and rotel... and my yamaha.

also, that xpa-2 powering some dynaudio towers sounded like hell. i had 4 guys from av123 forum at my buddies house to give it a listen... they all aggreed.

please dont try to give me advise on simple trouble shooting procedures.... im not a newb... deffinently not an expert either

 

[DRAKE]

Impossible, period. Its frequency response is ruler flat from 20Hz-20kHz and plenty of power on a continuous basis. It may have sounded harsh as you tried to overdrive your speakers to get that 8" driver to do more than it is capable of.
Get a stand alone sub!

hmmmm... what makes you think i dont have a sub? my current sub is hsu VTF-3 MK3. again... im not new buddy

 

[Lordoftherings]

Actually, the Yams have that urban legend to contend with but, like other well built modern amps, they are transparent, like that Onkyo is, end of story. But, perhaps you don't want to hear that?

The Yamahas are just fine, they have a good bass slam (some models anyway), they are clear & clean, with low distortion, perhaps a bit of tendency on the bright side (depending on the speakers), and same as the Onkyos.

I seriously doubt he has an amp issue. His issue is an 8" driver he wants it to act like a true sub He needs a stand alone sub.

What? He doesn't have a sub? Then, he needs an SVS, definitively, or something very similar, period.

Impossible, period. Its frequency response is ruler flat from 20Hz-20kHz and plenty of power on a continuous basis. It may have sounded harsh as you tried to overdrive your speakers to get that 8" driver to do more than it is capable of.
Get a stand alone sub!

Yah, that beats me too. Something very wrong must have gone very wrong indeed.

 

[bigred7078]

your pointing out simple trouble shooting procedures that dont have anything to do with the peformance of the speaker. i dont care if you pulled the speakers 4 feet from the wall and stood back 15 feet from the front in a room that 's 15X25 you can see plain as day that the amp lacks in bass. why did i get better bass responce with my yamaha, rotel, and dodd? pretty sad, huh? i paired that xpa-2 with a emotiva rsp-2... maybe, there was an issue with the preamp. i went through every trouble shooting procedure with emotiva before i sent it back. you think i wanted to waste $110 shipping that huge paper weight back to emotiva because i dont know what the hell im doing? i really wanted this amp to work. maybe that amp just doesnt match well with lipsch. it sure as hell isnt the speaker. my speakers sound great with dodd and rotel... and my yamaha.

also, that xpa-2 powering some dynaudio towers sounded like hell. i had 4 guys from av123 forum at my buddies house to give it a listen... they all aggreed.

please dont try to give me advise on simple trouble shooting procedures.... im not a newb... deffinently not an expert either

bro sorry but the amp doesnt lack in bass. That is the one thing it definately does not lack...In fact i think you are the only person i have read to say that...lol

Obviously you have tremendous user errors in play...

 

[Alex2507]

Well, now you got two red chickets.

No matter, they're all from idiots.

7 posts and 2 red chicklets, impressive.

BTW, what did these idiots say in the comments?

 

[Lordoftherings]

hmmmm... what makes you think i dont have a sub? my current sub is hsu VTF-3 MK3. again... im not new buddy

Ahhh... Great, finally the true truth is revealed. And a great sub too.

That's cool Drake. This one is out of the way now.

The color is about to turn green, I can smell it.

 

[DRAKE]

Ahhh... Great, finally the true truth is revealed. And a great sub too.

That's cool Drake. This one is out of the way now.

The color is about to turn green, I can smell it.

great sub... had to send back the first one. had a bad bash amp... glue was all over the board. messy mass-produced work. new amp sent back is excellent. hsu had to drill bash or whoever that manufactures them.

this sub will fool you... you set it at 10 oclock and level 1 on your reciever and it's more than plenty. killer sub for the money!