decent 5.1 powerfull hu

[DRAKE]

looking for a home theatre reciever good for movies and music. i noticed by yamaha reciever isnt destributing power equally between the front channels. one speaker is recieving less power than the other. really sux because i liked this reciever. i need a reciever that can get my 8" woofers to move. yes, the klipsch rf-83's are very efficient but they need some decent power to get these monsters to shine. for now... i dont have the monies to get a seperate amp to push my fron t speakers. i recently returned a emotiva xpa-2. sound quality was garbage... plenty of power though. i just want a do it all reciever... is this possible?

anyways... i need hdmi connects, 2ch mode, and atleast 130 watts of power. my budget is $700. my front speakers are klipsch rf-83's. sub- hsu

 

[DRAKE]

need a decent ht/music reciever...

looking for a home theatre reciever good for movies and music. i noticed by yamaha reciever isnt destributing power equally between the front channels. one speaker is recieving less power than the other. really sux because i liked this reciever. i need a reciever that can get my 8" woofers to move. yes, the klipsch rf-83's are very efficient but they need some decent power to get these monsters to shine. for now... i dont have the monies to get a seperate amp to push my fron t speakers. i recently returned a emotiva xpa-2. sound quality was garbage... plenty of power though. i just want a do it all reciever... is this possible?

anyways... i need hdmi connects, 2ch mode, and atleast 130 watts of power. my budget is $700. my front speakers are klipsch rf-83's. sub- hsu

 

[Fenix]

Which Yamaha were you using?

 

[Lordoftherings]

Some receiver's choices that will do good to your Klipschs.

Hi Drake & Welcome to the club.

About an Onkyo tX-SR805 ($600), if you can find one.

Or an Onkyo TX-SR876 for $950. (Accessories 4 less.) * More $, but worth it. (Was $875 at one time.)

Or a Marantz SR8001 for $700. (Great receiver for a great price.)
Or these with a bit les than 130 watts per channel, but still very good in their power delivery; the SR6003 for $625.
The SR 7001 is only $500.
And the SR6001 is at a low $350.

Or an Onkyo TX-SR875 for $750. (Good deal plus power.)

There is always the Pioneer Elite SC-07 for $899. (Not too shabby for the price.)
Or the Elite SC-05 for $689. -> (But I still will go with an Onkyo or Marantz.)

So, here you go, some of the very best, if not the best at prices between roughly $300 to $900.
-> Just check all of these above at: Accessories4less and 6th Avenue (at 6th avenue, you name your price). Other good places for great deals: Audiogon and Videogon.

* Too bad for the XPA-2. (One of my very favorite amp; don't know what happened here!)

Bob

 

[Lordoftherings]

Which Yamaha were you using?

Just a pure guess (hunch): Yamaha RX-V1800, or if not, pretty damn close.

 

[3db]

looking for a home theatre reciever good for movies and music. i noticed by yamaha reciever isnt destributing power equally between the front channels. one speaker is recieving less power than the other. really sux because i liked this reciever. i need a reciever that can get my 8" woofers to move. yes, the klipsch rf-83's are very efficient but they need some decent power to get these monsters to shine. for now... i dont have the monies to get a seperate amp to push my fron t speakers. i recently returned a emotiva xpa-2. sound quality was garbage... plenty of power though. i just want a do it all reciever... is this possible?

anyways... i need hdmi connects, 2ch mode, and atleast 130 watts of power. my budget is $700. my front speakers are klipsch rf-83's. sub- hsu

Before we start to help, we need some more info. What kind of Yamaha receiver do you have? How is it setup? How do you know one speaker is receiving less power? How did you determine that? Does this apparent difference occur in 2 channel only? With vinyl or CDs? Do you notice while playing DVD? Has this een happening long? When did you notice this?.....That shoud do for now.

 

[bigred7078]

looking for a home theatre reciever good for movies and music. i noticed by yamaha reciever isnt destributing power equally between the front channels. one speaker is recieving less power than the other. really sux because i liked this reciever. i need a reciever that can get my 8" woofers to move. yes, the klipsch rf-83's are very efficient but they need some decent power to get these monsters to shine. for now... i dont have the monies to get a seperate amp to push my fron t speakers. i recently returned a emotiva xpa-2. sound quality was garbage... plenty of power though. i just want a do it all reciever... is this possible?

anyways... i need hdmi connects, 2ch mode, and atleast 130 watts of power. my budget is $700. my front speakers are klipsch rf-83's. sub- hsu

garbage sound quality from the XPA-2??? Are you sure you even had it set up properly??? How was the sound garbage?

And as 3db said, how in the world do you know its not distributing the power evenly??? I assume you think this because one speaker is louder than the other? If that is the case, then that just sounds like the speakers are not level matched properly.

 

[DRAKE]

garbage sound quality from the XPA-2??? Are you sure you even had it set up properly??? How was the sound garbage?

And as 3db said, how in the world do you know its not distributing the power evenly??? I assume you think this because one speaker is louder than the other? If that is the case, then that just sounds like the speakers are not level matched properly.

yes... the xpa-2 was trash. the sound quality was very poor. completly lacked in lower bass frequencies and the highs were very harsh. i matched up that amp with their preamp. cant remember the model number. i sent the xpa-2 back because emotiva said there must be something wrong with the amp. after recieving a new one from them the amp sounded identical to the previous. really... my yamaha pa amp sounded better. very dry bass lacking amp....

anyways... with my yamaha reciever i came under the conclusion that one channle was lacking power because i hooked up some car audio components with the crossovers to the reciever. one woofer was substancially more louder than the other. i switched speakers on on different channels hoping that one of my crossovers were bad. it wasnt the crossovers... it was the amp. i also notice this with my klipsch towers... one side is louder than the other. sux...

even if nothing was wrong with the yamaha... i need a reciever with a little more balls and hdmi connects.

my yamaha model is the htr-5890. it says it's a 140 X 7 @ 8ohm but that is a lie. reality... 110 X 7

 

[DRAKE]

Just a pure guess (hunch): Yamaha RX-V1800, or if not, pretty damn close.

mine is the htr-5890... yamaha lied about the power rating... they claim it's 140 X 7 @ 8ohm

 

[mtrycrafts]

yes... the xpa-2 was trash. the sound quality was very poor. completly lacked in lower bass frequencies and the highs were very harsh. i matched up that amp with their preamp. cant remember the model number. i sent the xpa-2 back because emotiva said there must be something wrong with the amp. after recieving a new one from them the amp sounded identical to the previous. really... my yamaha pa amp sounded better. very dry bass lacking amp....

anyways... with my yamaha reciever i came under the conclusion that one channle was lacking power because i hooked up some car audio components with the crossovers to the reciever. one woofer was substancially more louder than the other. i switched speakers on on different channels hoping that one of my crossovers were bad. it wasnt the crossovers... it was the amp. i also notice this with my klipsch towers... one side is louder than the other. sux...

even if nothing was wrong with the yamaha... i need a reciever with a little more balls and hdmi connects.

my yamaha model is the htr-5890. it says it's a 140 X 7 @ 8ohm but that is a lie. reality... 110 X 7

The difference between 110 watts and 140 watts about 1dB spl, hardly audible and that only happens on transient peaks.

Perhaps that 8" is just not capable of what you think it should be capable of?
That Emotiva sound you ascribe is unreasonable as that is a transparent component.

Mixing car audio gear may be the issue?

What you are describing may be setup, speakers, room, or expectation beyond component capability?

 

[mtrycrafts]

mine is the htr-5890... yamaha lied about the power rating... they claim it's 140 X 7 @ 8ohm

How did they lie? Did you test yours? Independent testing someplace?

By the way, you double posted this in two sections

 

[j_garcia]

IMO, at $700 for what you are looking for, you are going to get a receiver that is pretty much identical to what you have. I have seen no receivers in that price range that will actually put out that much power, though having said that, the 5890 did get good power ratings. Not sure where you got 140wpc, but I don't think that is the actual rating for that receiver. Note that when you see that inflated rating, it is usually rated for TWO channels.

 

[lsiberian]

looking for a home theatre reciever good for movies and music. i noticed by yamaha reciever isnt destributing power equally between the front channels. one speaker is recieving less power than the other. really sux because i liked this reciever. i need a reciever that can get my 8" woofers to move. yes, the klipsch rf-83's are very efficient but they need some decent power to get these monsters to shine. for now... i dont have the monies to get a seperate amp to push my fron t speakers. i recently returned a emotiva xpa-2. sound quality was garbage... plenty of power though. i just want a do it all reciever... is this possible?

anyways... i need hdmi connects, 2ch mode, and atleast 130 watts of power. my budget is $700. my front speakers are klipsch rf-83's. sub- hsu

Have you checked your channel balance?

Sound like you have a connection or settings issue. I suggest you check your settings and use the balance feature if necessary.

Have you done a multi-meter check to be certain?

I suggest you stick with the Yamaha brand. Remember it takes double the watts to increase the volume significantly. So 100 to 130 is a very small change.

Personally I never buy a new receiver. You can get used for half the cost.

I suggest you check out audiogon. For an external amp the Yamaha pro amps are the best for home use due to their quiet operation and high power capabilities. Given your love for Yamaha might be right up your alley.

 

[DRAKE]

The difference between 110 watts and 140 watts about 1dB spl, hardly audible and that only happens on transient peaks.

Perhaps that 8" is just not capable of what you think it should be capable of?
That Emotiva sound you ascribe is unreasonable as that is a transparent component.

Mixing car audio gear may be the issue?

What you are describing may be setup, speakers, room, or expectation beyond component capability?

nope... wrong there buddy. the car audio stuff was me trying to break in the speakers. would never use car audio gear in the house. yes.... emotiva sux. hooked that amp to my buddies dynaudio towers and recieved the same result. those amps are super dry, lifeless, harsh highs, and lacking bass. trust me... i wanted them to work soo bad. the price is unreal. you pay for what you get... most of the time

 

[bigred7078]

nope... wrong there buddy. the car audio stuff was me trying to break in the speakers. would never use car audio gear in the house. yes.... emotiva sux. hooked that amp to my buddies dynaudio towers and recieved the same result. those amps are super dry, lifeless, harsh highs, and lacking bass. trust me... i wanted them to work soo bad. the price is unreal. you pay for what you get... most of the time

lol riiiiiiiight

 

[DRAKE]

lol riiiiiiiight

you know this is the only forum that digs emotiva, right? i'm a musician. i know what music is suppose to sound like. i use good wires, power conditioners, sound deadening matt, spl meters, ect.... i even measure power with a scope meter. i'm not a pro, but i know what the hell im doing. if the klipsch rf-83's play down to 28hrz and your lacking in bass there's a problem with the power supply.


emotiva=garbage

 

[Djizasse]

Is it that time of the month?

 

[bigred7078]

you know this is the only forum that digs emotiva, right? i'm a musician. i know what music is suppose to sound like. i use good wires, power conditioners, sound deadening matt, spl meters, ect.... i even measure power with a scope meter. i'm not a pro, but i know what the hell im doing. if the klipsch rf-83's play down to 28hrz and your lacking in bass there's a problem with the power supply.


emotiva=garbage

riiiiiiiiight

 

[j_garcia]

I suggest you stick with the Yamaha brand. Remember it takes double the watts to increase the volume significantly. So 100 to 130 is a very small change..

It isn't a small change if that 100W isn't "real world" power. I went from a claimed a Marantz with 105wpc to one with 120wpc but a MUCH larger power supply and the difference was quite noticeable. Current receiver is 120wpc and my amp is 150wpc but the difference is very noticeable in terms of headroom for 2ch operation. The whole double the watts to get a significant difference refers to the fact that what is perceived as louder by "most people" would require twice the power. It doesn't sound like he is looking for more volume, so more power might not be the answer.

I agree, you should calibrate your system before looking for a new receiver. That XPA2 should have put out noticeably more power than the Yamaha IMO.

 

[DRAKE]

It isn't a small change if that 100W isn't "real world" power. I went from a claimed a Marantz with 105wpc to one with 120wpc but a MUCH larger power supply and the difference was quite noticeable. Current receiver is 120wpc and my amp is 150wpc but the difference is very noticeable in terms of headroom for 2ch operation. The whole double the watts to get a significant difference refers to the fact that what is perceived as louder by "most people" would require twice the power. It doesn't sound like he is looking for more volume, so more power might not be the answer.

I agree, you should calibrate your system before looking for a new receiver. That XPA2 should have put out noticeably more power than the Yamaha IMO.

the XPA-2 produced a hell of alot more power than my yamaha but the sound was not up to par. that amp is lifeless... dry, lacked in bass, and highs were very harsh. trust me... with that price i was hopeing big time that emotiva would've been able to do the job. it didnt