Since you are the only one of the "unregistereds" that even tried to help. I'll explain a little what I'm saying. As far as the others that had nothing to offer, well, you know..
Unregistered said:
Every receiver I have ever seen says "The Volume Control has no effect on the output of tape-out". So true, the volume will not vary with the position of the volume control, which is why he must use the sub's volume control and that may or may not be sufficient. But again, the original poster was looking for a way to accomplish *something* that might work, not a perfect solution. .
I never said it would NOT work. But, for someone not aware that the signal is fed full volume to the sub, it can be quite a disconcerting experience. Personally, I find this method of driving the sub totally unacceptable but that's just me. I like to set it once, in relation to the volume control, and pretty much leave it at that.
If he HAD to usethe moitors and was willing to live with the volume adjustment situation, then all would be well. ...but I fine it a royal PITA and would rather do without it. Again, that's just me.
Unregistered said:
The point is moot anyway because now he says the receiver does have sub-out and the question and answers no longer have any relevance.
And I'm glad it worked out that way. I thought it strange that a HT receiver lacked a sub out.
Unregistered said:
What are you talking about? The output jack is the end of the line, of course it is "out of the circuit". We are talking about using tape out NOT a tape monitor loop. You can do whatever you want. Whether it will have the desired outcome is a totally different topic. A Y connector is passive and will not process the signal in any way. Both channels are munged together, which won't be an issue for the sub anyway.
If you use the pre-outs of a receiver to feed an amp, the amp will see two distinct channels. In no way will the pre-outs process the signal so that each input receives an identical signal - that would kind of defeat the purpose of using the pre-outs in the first place, wouldn't you say?
If you were to use the l/r pre-outs connected to a Y connector to feed a single input on the sub it will be exactly the same as doing the same thing from the tape-out l/r jacks. The only difference is the pre-outs will be affected by the volume control. But again the poster was looking for any way to accomplish it..
I'll try to make this as simple as possible. Let's draw it out. don't think I'm talking qdown to you but sometimes a little visualization helps. I certainly benefit from it at times.
1) Draw two parallel lines about three inches long and about two" apart. Drawing them horizontaly would be helpful.
2) Now between theose two lines, starting somewhere in the middle, draw a third line and extend it (towards the right) to where the other lines end
3) Label one "R" and the other "L" and the one in the middle "S". These are the two channels in question, with the subwoofer in between.
Let's think of these as the hot (inner) wire and ignore the shields.
4) Label the left side of the R & L lines "source"
5) Label the right side "amp"
We now have two separate signals going from the source to the amp.
6) Now, let's add that "Y" connector by connecting the "R" and "L" to the "S" line where it starts in the middle.
Now, what we would LIKE to happen is that the R (and L, for that matter) signal would travel ONLY half way down that connecting line and go out the subwoofer line while maintaning their independence on their original R and L paths, right?
Oh, were it only that simple...
What happens in the real world is that yes, the two signals will go down the subwoofer line and out it, but they will ALSO continue along that connecting like to the OPPOSITE signal's line.
We've now combined the R & L for the subwoofer's benefit but we've also combined them for ANY signal path that connects to it as well.
Kapice?
Some companies make devices that will combine the R and L into a common signal and maintain each channel's integrity, but there's a lot more than a simple "Y" connector involved.
Unregistered said:
There was nothing arrogant about it, you simply took it that way. Being registered means absolutely nothing. You seem to think that because you registered, the information you provide is unimpeachable and that couldn't be further from the truth. Now that is arrogant.
I most certainly not impeachable, but if I give erronous advice, they know from wence it originated. Likewise, when I give good advice, which I do try to do, they also know who gave it. I try to pride myself on giving good advice. Sometimes I do make mistakes, but I'm only human. Likewise, I don't hide behind an anonymous moniker so when I screw the pooch, it's there for all to see.
Likewise, if I consistently post ka ka, people would know to avoid me like the plague. Heck, people do anyway. That's just part of the wonder that is me.
Readers Digest version. Although it's not required (yet) If you want offer advice, pick a name and stick with it. If you don't have enough pride in your answers to stand by it, then you shouldn't be posting. Asking questions is fine, but offering advice anonymously is, IMNSHO, questionsble
Now, one can offer advice that either augments or contradicts anothers without seeming to be confrontational. I tried to do that when I "augmented" the suggestion about using the tape monitors by pointing out the caveat that controling the volume might be more of an issue than he initially assumed.
No offense was meant and I tried to word it as to not offend the original poster. If one is easily offended by people either adding to an answer or, heaven forbid, even contradicting it, then perhaps these forums are not for that type of person.
If that WAS you, then I apologize. As has been pointed out, it's hard to know who you are dealing when one is not registered. I don't know if I have here one "unregistered" that sometimes overacts or more than one, some of which are dripping sphincters.
For the sake of peace, I'll assume there are more than one and the snide ones can go forth and engage in asexual reproduction for all I care.
If you will notice, when you "confronted" me I did not rile up. I tried to explain what I was saying in more detail without too much hostility. Incredulity, yes, but no hostility. I do expect the same courtsey.
Now, I see you truly mean well and seem to want to contribute. That's good. Be a mensch, register and post the BEST answers you can muster.
Be aware that there are others who know more than you (and more than me, too) and you may run into them on occasion. But, buck up and take yer lumps and you'll be a better netitizen for it. ...and learn to laugh. You'll live longer.
Pax, Markw