Classe, Mark Levinson, Plinius...

Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
My room is about 18x22 and I set about 10 feet away from the speakers.

I'm not one to listen to them at a real loud volume.

Ray
Then you should be fine with the Proceed. My room is approximately the same size as yours and I power my Bostons with 25 watts per channel.:D
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
In the higher-end, I'd probably go Bryston myself. Otherwise, I'd go with Rotel or Emotiva.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
"water" is always running in either cases except that in class AB the current flow has to switch from one output (e.g. transistor) device to the other, resulting in crossover distortion. Crossover distortion does not exist in class A because the output device is always on. The capacitors you referred to are used in the power supply to filter out unwanted high frequencies and provide energy storage. They are needed for class A amps for the same reasons they are needed in class AB amps.
Class A/B in its simplest form works as a pair. During the +ve cycle of the waveform, one transistor amplifies the signal. As the waveform crosses zeroe and goes negative, the positive transistor stops amplifiieing and the transistor used for the -ve portion begins to amplify The crossover distortion occurs at the zereo voltage point or axes where neither transistor is amplifing. Class A is when the bias point of the transistor sits in the middle of its bias point allowing it to amplify both positive and negative waveforms. Its the most linear of the amplifiers but it also uses the most power as its always on.
Thats my understanding of it.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
In the higher-end, I'd probably go Bryston myself. Otherwise, I'd go with Rotel or Emotiva.
Bryston has to have the best warranty in the business. I would choose them for the warranty alone, 20 or 25 years. No other manufacturer I know of offers that kind of warranty.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
My room is about 18x22 and I set about 10 feet away from the speakers.

I'm not one to listen to them at a real loud volume.

Ray
Indeed you will have more than enough power with what you have and will not hear a difference under properly controlled listening condition by switching to the Classe or any of the others.
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
Bryston has to have the best warranty in the business. I would choose them for the warranty alone, 20 or 25 years. No other manufacturer I know of offers that kind of warranty.
Yup, and they only say 20 to 25 years just so they state something, but if you approach them after 30 or 35 years, they'll likely fix your unit just the same.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Class A/B in its simplest form works as a pair. During the +ve cycle of the waveform, one transistor amplifies the signal. As the waveform crosses zeroe and goes negative, the positive transistor stops amplifiieing and the transistor used for the -ve portion begins to amplify The crossover distortion occurs at the zereo voltage point or axes where neither transistor is amplifing. Class A is when the bias point of the transistor sits in the middle of its bias point allowing it to amplify both positive and negative waveforms. Its the most linear of the amplifiers but it also uses the most power as its always on.
Thats my understanding of it.
I said output device (could be tube stuff) you said transistor, otherwise we are pretty much saying the same thing right? You did elaborate further so I guess it did clarify the point I was trying to make.
 
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Tech HiFi

Enthusiast
I still have my Krell and Proceed stuff it's relegated for my 2.0 system, my HT is all Panny except speakers which are Gallos. My Krell can drive anything, it weighs a ton and yes it's beautiful to look at, but besides that , meh, another expensive amp. Given the option I would never spend that kind of money again.
Which Krell do you have? Maybe I will do you a favor and take it off your hands, since it's Christmas...
 
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ManishKasera

Junior Audioholic
I haven't heard anyone talking about Parasound Halo Series. What about A51 or A21?
All reviews are great about them and comparing to other so fancy and Hi end equipments they are decently priced.
I guess everyone love to buy Hi end stuff giving you are rich on insane :D
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I haven't heard anyone talking about Parasound Halo Series. What about A51 or A21?
All reviews are great about them and comparing to other so fancy and Hi end equipments they are decently priced.
I guess everyone love to buy Hi end stuff giving you are rich on insane :D
The gear being discussed here is in a different league than Parasound as a whole. This is like Esoteric stuff.;)
 
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ManishKasera

Junior Audioholic
Since people are discussing whether it is worth the money for high gear. I thought it is worth mentioning that Parasound gives you good bang for the bucks.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Was there even a point to this thread to start with :rolleyes:
 
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Halla

Audioholic Intern
Name dropping?????????

Aside from name dropping hi end gear i dont understand your question.

Was there something specific you wanted to know about these brands?
That was not my idea, but say I have a room 8 x 12 metres and say I have got 2 x 800D B&W as fronts driven by 2 plinius SA Reference power amps.
One HTM1 D B&W Centre and 2 803s B&W as rears, what must I use as power amp and processor. I am just looking at Classe, Mark Levinson,Lexicon and plinius. I will be able to change the Plinius SA Reference power amps for
one of the other as named above, but why? My idea was Mark Levinson no.433 for my centre and rears.
Please help me in this regard, maybe weighing up some specs of the above.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Good morning.

In the price range your looking at you have a ton of options,have you thought of running a multi channel amp for the rears & center.

What processor would depend onm what features you want/need & what type of connections your looking for,as im sure you know there are not a lot of choices in hi end pre/pro's with HDMI connections.
 
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Halla

Audioholic Intern
Hdmi

I am not too much worried about that at this stage. I would just like to know what power amps you will use out of Mark Levinson, Classe, Plinius and Lexicon with my speaker configuration . Think I will use Mark Levinson for processor.
Seen your pictures - awesome system - most impressive mono blocks.
WOW!!!!!!!
 
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Halla

Audioholic Intern
Multi channel

Good morning.

In the price range your looking at you have a ton of options,have you thought of running a multi channel amp for the rears & center.

What processor would depend onm what features you want/need & what type of connections your looking for,as im sure you know there are not a lot of choices in hi end pre/pro's with HDMI connections.
I think of using Mark Levinson no.433 for rears and centre. My problem is what mono blocks for 800D B&W - really want to stay with Plinius SA Reference but also looking at Classe and Mark Levinson.
 
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