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04rex

Audioholic Intern
Hey Guys, might seem like a dumb question, but what cable do you need to connect a receiver to an amp? Regular RCA cables will do, or should it be digital coax cables? Or does it have to be a certain frequency or something?

Thanks
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
I asked this question not long ago is that any coax RCA cable should do fine. I'm using Monoprice.com subwoofer cables with my setup. To keep things non-confusing I labeled them on both ends before installing them.
 
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04rex

Audioholic Intern
Cool, thanks. I was thinking of monoprice as well. I was also thinking of using the sub cable for that. I mean it couldnt hurt.
 
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tjf120

Audioholic Intern
I prefer Blue Jeans Cable over monoprice.

Digital COAX is really just the RCA you plug into the typically orange colored for digital audio signal.
 
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FWAF!

Audiophyte
Digital Coax and RCA Impedance Difference?

Is there an impedance difference between regular rca and digital coax?
Or for that matter Componant video cables vs regular Red White Yellow RCA?

Thanks
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I prefer Blue Jeans Cable over monoprice.

Digital COAX is really just the RCA you plug into the typically orange colored for digital audio signal.
I prefer Monoprice over Blue Jeans. I've bought hundreds of dollars of product from both, but 1.5 year ago or more, I have been exclusively buying Mono.

The only cable that I prefer with BJC so far are the analogs, but they should be better at an extremely higher price. (I believe more than ten times the price, maybe even twenty times the price.)

I even prefer Mono speaker wire because they come pretwisted and the insulation is easier to work with.

Mono is less expensive across the board.

Mono is packaged better.

I'm tired of BJC > Monoprice without any reasoning.

I gave you my reasoning.

If you say it's because you're buying the American made product, that means you are buying the most expensive cables that BJC is offering, and you're just in a COMPLETELY different price segment.

Thank you for reading.


edit: I had to look, dang, you can pay $160 for 3' mch analogs for a 7.1 system at BJC! That's more than my 35', 25', 15', and various shorter length HDMI cables combined from Monoprice.
 
dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
I prefer BJC and will go with the reason its American made and I'm damn proud of it as well.
 
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tjf120

Audioholic Intern
I prefer Monoprice over Blue Jeans. I've bought hundreds of dollars of product from both, but 1.5 year ago or more, I have been exclusively buying Mono.

The only cable that I prefer with BJC so far are the analogs, but they should be better at an extremely higher price. (I believe more than ten times the price, maybe even twenty times the price.)

I even prefer Mono speaker wire because they come pretwisted and the insulation is easier to work with.

Mono is less expensive across the board.

Mono is packaged better.

I'm tired of BJC > Monoprice without any reasoning.

I gave you my reasoning.

If you say it's because you're buying the American made product, that means you are buying the most expensive cables that BJC is offering, and you're just in a COMPLETELY different price segment.

Thank you for reading.


edit: I had to look, dang, you can pay $160 for 3' mch analogs for a 7.1 system at BJC! That's more than my 35', 25', 15', and various shorter length HDMI cables combined from Monoprice.
I prefer BJC because I can customize my end connections, ie, order the connectors myself, or have them do it. My speaker binding posts are larger than the standard spade size you usually get.

I prefer their sub cable because the monoprice cable I used had a 'hum' associated with it.

It doesn't hurt that its american made ;)
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I prefer BJC and will go with the reason its American made and I'm damn proud of it as well.
You are implying that all BJC cables comprise of American made materials?

Are you damn proud of Chinese made cables too?

I prefer BJC because I can customize my end connections, ie, order the connectors myself, or have them do it. My speaker binding posts are larger than the standard spade size you usually get.

I prefer their sub cable because the monoprice cable I used had a 'hum' associated with it.

It doesn't hurt that its american made ;)
Interesting. I used to run a 35' Monoprice subwoofer cable before I put in a DIY sub powered by Monoprice speaker wire. Never any hum. Ever.

The 35' Mono cable is $7.21. The BJC LC-1 of the same length is $54.25, or close to eight times more expensive.

If I was willing to buy electronics that were 8x more expensive . . . maybe I could own all American . . .
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Color me a big fan of Monoprice. Nothing wrong with BJC for sure, but no quality advantage that I've ever seen from them. If I need 'custom' cables, then I make them myself, but for prefabs, Monoprice is hard to beat.
 
dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
Are you damn proud of Chinese made cables too?
Why would I be proud of Chinese cables as well? If I have the option I prefer to buy American. To bad that is only .01% of the time with everything being made in China these days. Thats just the way its going and will be for a very long time into the future.

Probably 95% of the stuff I own is made in China one or another. Its just bad when the American flag says made in China.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Why would I be proud of Chinese cables as well? If I have the option I prefer to buy American. To bad that is only .01% of the time with everything being made in China these days. Thats just the way its going and will be for a very long time into the future.

Probably 95% of the stuff I own is made in China one or another. Its just bad when the American flag says made in China.
If you didn't ignore my first question, you might have been given a hint as to why I ask such a question as the second.

Blue Jeans Cable sells Chinese made cables.

Do you happen to know which of their cables are American made and which are Chinese made? I don't remember which are which, and how often this distinction is even made on their site. I think Kurt did once explain at least some of them here at AH, and of course it does boil down to cost.

If any of my cabling product was American, I'd brag all about it for sure right on the site. Therefore, I sort of assume that if no distinction is made, that it might be Chinese. Do you* know if all your cabling is truly American??

You can get plenty of American made stuff with AV, not displays perhaps, but amplifiers, speakers, subwoofers, etc. Sometimes you do have to pay a lot more. If you did pay about one order of magnitude or more for your cabling than you'd have to at Monoprice, I suppose the chance of them being American made are higher.

But, I wish BJC fanbois would at least admit that they are paying 10x more for the American made cable, rather than just implying that all BJC is American made, wherefore a noobie says oh I can buy the cheapest BJC and I am supporting American made products when in fact the reality may very likely be that they are completely fooled and instead own Chinese product.

If people encourage others to buy American made BJC, I wish they would at least point out which cables were really American made, instead of misleading people. Then when they see that it does cost close to an order of magnitude more, they can decide whether paying 10 fold is worth it.
 
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dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
If you go to the BJC website and click on the HDMI cable. Go all the way down to the bottom, he clearly states which ones are Chinese made.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I prefer BJC and will go with the reason its American made and I'm damn proud of it as well.
I prefer BJC because I can customize my end connections, ie, order the connectors myself, or have them do it. My speaker binding posts are larger than the standard spade size you usually get.

I prefer their sub cable because the monoprice cable I used had a 'hum' associated with it.

It doesn't hurt that its american made ;)
All good reasons to buy BJC:D Nothing wrong with such choices, nothing at all:D
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
...Blue Jeans Cable sells Chinese made cables.

....
Yes, bit if I am not mistaken it is under the brand name or Taran or something like that, not BJC brand cable.

BJC HDMI cable may only be terminated in China as the machinery to terminate is very expensive. I think the owner mentioned this before too.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
In description of the BJC LC-1 cable.

(which is manufactured in bulk form for us by Belden Wire and Cable in Richmond, Indiana)

Both of the alternative cables offered in this category are Belden.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I prefer the multi-channel bluejeanscable.

Color coded.

Drop-down menu gives you the option for how many cables.

Top-notch.

I have purchased from both Mono, and BJC as well. For this connection, I prefer BJC.
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/6channel/index.htm
I have these too, and I think I did mention that it is with these cables that I prefer BJC. However, they should* be better considering their price; with only the required length to reach from one component sitting on top of another, the set cost me over $100. You know, for a short set of wires that ain't cheap. I am not crazy about their looks, but they fit well and the color coding is indeed convenient.

In description of the BJC LC-1 cable.

(which is manufactured in bulk form for us by Belden Wire and Cable in Richmond, Indiana)

Both of the alternative cables offered in this category are Belden.
I didn't realize that Belden meant it's US made. I wonder if the Canare stuff is US made too. If both are always US made, then BJC does indeed almost exclusively sell US made cables. I wasn't sure about that, and I guess I'm looking for some confirmation if anyone happens to know. This would be great news.

This discussion about American made stuff has really piqued my interest in my other possessions. My stereo speakers are American made, my last subwoofer was as well. My current DIY flatpack kit subwoofer is from an American company owned by an American, but I sort of want to know where the two custom drivers were built, and I admit I am a little apprehensive to ask. Ok, it appears the built in amps in my speakers are made in China, if most or the rest of the speaker is US designed and made.

I know with something super complex like a receiver (which is basically 7 or more amplifiers, multiple power supplies, video processor, hdmi switcher, audio processor, preamplifier, AM/FM tuner, multimedia internet streaming device, and more) that there are probably double digit countries being represented. But it would be cool to get American made stuff for speakers and sub.

Like my sub and screen, my future speakers will be DIY. I wonder which drivers out there are American made. I would hope the SEAS would be made in Norway and the Dayton in the US, but it's prolly China if I had to guess. I wonder where the Holtz Statement's Tangband, Dayton, and Fountek drivers are made. I wonder where my Seymour screen fabric is made (not that I have any kind of choice with DIY AT material, but still).

I might go ask about my sub driver's today. :cool:
 
dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
So far from BJC I've purchased four HDMI, one Optical Digital Audio, two subwoofer cables, one Composite Video/Stereo and two regular RCA cables. Then next week I'll be buying the multi-channel as I will be buying an amp.

Guess I'm a loyal customer.
 
dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
Since this is a topic on cables, I have my own question. I own an Onkyo DV-SP1000 player that I use to play my CD's and SACD's. I currently use the optical digital out to hook up to my receiver.

Would I gain anything if I use the seven channel anolog to hook up to my AVR? It has Wolfson 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs, now is this only when using analog, or when you use digital as well?
 

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