Bought an Outlaw Model 5000 (boy is it heavy!)

[Carl08]

I purchased a B-stock Outlaw Audio Model 5000 as a trial to mate with my Marantz SR6012. The intent was to run my main 5 channels with it and run the 2 Atmos speakers off the receiver. The weight of the box from FedEx was heavier than I expected. Unboxed, you lift this thing and you KNOW you spent some cash on quality! I listened to a little bit of 2 channel and I could really hear a difference as opposed to just using the Marantz SR6012 alone. There's depth to the music with the Outlaw. I don't understand how companies are claiming the watts they are when this thing is 120 watts per channel but weighs a ton compared to my receiver. Needless to say I'm keeping this amp! I did have to purchase a new audio/HT rack and have to raise my television 5 inches on the wall but it's worth it. I'm also resetting my SR6012 to factory specs and doing a full reinstall in preparation for Bohemian Rhapsody and The House with a Clock in it's Walls.

If you don't have a standalone amplifier, I highly recommend one!

 

[KEW]

I don't understand how companies are claiming the watts they are when this thing is 120 watts per channel but weighs a ton compared to my receiver.

Outlaw did something very strange when they state this is a 120 WPC amplifier.
Probably the most important (to their decision) specification the average buyer looks at when selecting a power amp is how many watts it is, and it is almost like Outlaw doesn't want to sell too many of these!
For the Outlaw 5000, it is 120 honest (20-20kHz at 0.02%THD) Watts into five channels at once!
The standard (including for your Marantz) is to specify wattage into only two channels.
If the Marantz was measured into 5 channels (at 20-20kHz and 0.02% THD) I'd venture it would barely make 60 WPC!
So, Marantz is not faking their numbers, rather Outlaw is using a non-standard and rigorous method for specifying its power!

However, I must say, it has been my experience that the Marantz usually offers enough power for typical speakers at typical SPL levels. If you listen loud and your speakers are more demanding than most and have some impedance drops to 4 ohms or below, that is where I would expect that the Marantz's capability might be getting stretched and Outlaw 5000 will shine in comparison!

But by any measure, the Outlaw should serve you very well for years as AVR's become obsolete.
It seems like an excellent amp!

 

[ryanosaur]

My 2200s weigh in at 25# each, IIRC... FedEx guy thought I was nuts picking 3 up at once. Regardless, their amps do seem nice, and it was with many recommendations over the years that I looked to them. I considered others, but I liked having separate power supplies on each speaker. These were the right price.

And they work great!

Cheers!

 

[speakerman39]

That is right @KEW. When I was powering my Tyler Acoustics Linnbrook Sigs with the Denon AVR-X4000 it did a good job at moderate levels. I could tell that I really needed more power. Something like the 5000 model would have done the trick easily.


Cheers,

Phil

 

[M Code]

The Outlaw amplifier #5000 was a great amplifier. Built in Nanjing, China by the same OE factory that builds alot of NAD, Azur & Cambridge components...

Just my $0.02...

 

[Danzilla31]

I purchased a B-stock Outlaw Audio Model 5000 as a trial to mate with my Marantz SR6012. The intent was to run my main 5 channels with it and run the 2 Atmos speakers off the receiver. The weight of the box from FedEx was heavier than I expected. Unboxed, you lift this thing and you KNOW you spent some cash on quality! I listened to a little bit of 2 channel and I could really hear a difference as opposed to just using the Marantz SR6012 alone. There's depth to the music with the Outlaw. I don't understand how companies are claiming the watts they are when this thing is 120 watts per channel but weighs a ton compared to my receiver. Needless to say I'm keeping this amp! I did have to purchase a new audio/HT rack and have to raise my television 5 inches on the wall but it's worth it. I'm also resetting my SR6012 to factory specs and doing a full reinstall in preparation for Bohemian Rhapsody and The House with a Clock in it's Walls.

If you don't have a standalone amplifier, I highly recommend one!

Yeah I need amps for my room size but I think in the future I'll always have some regardless for a couple reasons whether I really need them or not.

1 they put out in all channels with low distortion what no normal av recievers do

2 they are stable down into lower ohm loads which I've found really helps with dynamics

3 I can run my av reciever like a pre pro and then put it in eco mode and keep it lasting probably a stupid amount of time longer less heat and less strain on the ol electronics

 

[davidscott]

Heavy usually means good with amps. My HK 349 receiver is pretty hefty.

 

[Andon]

Congratulations man, I also have a model 5000 and can't say enough good things about it (also "B" stock) but there is nothing "B" about it. I am running 4 ohms speakers and enjoying the 180w x 5. Speakers are screaming!!!