Bose Analogy

[Takeereasy]

Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before, but my theory is that Bose is the Red Pill. If you take it you wake up and everyhing is OK with your audio system. You are happy with the sound, the look, and the quality. I don't think that there is too much wrong with that for almost everyone. When you start to dig around for speaker or HT info you risk taking the Blue pill. Oh sure you may wind up with what to your mind is "real" audiophile gear. But you also get the headaches of always tweaking, always researching, chatting with other escapees from the Bose Matrix just like you. It's like some of us keep waiting for Larry Fishburn to show up and say "Welcome, to the real world".

This sparks an often misplaced feeling in people with other audio gear to malign Bose pundits. I don't like Bose products, I don't suggest them, I don't endorse them, if someone asks me if they should buy them I do kick them in the crotch and say in a superior voice "No.. bad moron, no, no bose." What I do not do is ridicule others for their choice unless they suggest that they have buyers remorse. I also won't flame someone for suggsting their 901's from the eighties are the bom-diggity-om. I don't know I always felt it was nicer to inform and guide then to insult. Sure, it's not as fun, but fun isn't always the way to go.

Oh well there's my sister superior act for the day. Later Gators, have a good weekend.

 

[Mort Corey]

Oh well there's my sister superior act for the day. Later Gators, have a good weekend.

Takeereasy hoser

 

[Privateer]

It's like some of us keep waiting for Larry Fishburn to show up and say "Welcome, to the real world".

That is true because every person who owns one of those overpriced bose systems are 100% happy with it and think the world of there purchase. Why do they think that, because the only other thing they have heard was the speakers that came with there TV so when they turn there bose system on it is a huge difference. It is kind of sad when you think about it.

 

[Spiffyfast]

Yeah, I understand those Bose people. I mean come on my Sony HTIB can out perform anyones system out there. Its a monster and the 2.5 inch woofers in the sattelites can hit 17hz. I'm tellin ya its unstopable, just like a bose system





.......wait.......I was dreaming........dangit

 

[Audiosouse]

I also won't flame someone for suggsting their 901's from the eighties are the bom-diggity-om. I don't know I always felt it was nicer to inform and guide then to insult. Sure, it's not as fun, but fun isn't always the way to go...

YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE SUCH AN A$$HOLE!!!

I suffer daily guilt for flaming a classified because some poor soul payed...wait for it...$5,500 for Monster amplifiers (yes as in Monster Cable) after trying out Krell.

When I came to (after kicking MYSELF in the crotch) threads were flying everywhere... bad scene...should've taken the blue pill.

As a good AH member I took the high road, apologized and pleaded temporary insanity (Monsanity? Boseanity?)...my therapist thanks you.

You crack me up Takeereasy. Since neither of us obviously has gainful employment, we should hang. Please tell me your a hot blonde chick (or redhead or brunette). I swear I'm not a stalker...I love you...Is that moving too fast? What's your problem?...Why are you dumping me!!! Aaa haa haa haa!

 

[Mudcat]

suggsting their 901's from the eighties are the bom-diggity-om.

I think it was actually:

<b><MARQUEE>Boom Chicka Boom Don't You Just Love It</MARQUEE></b>

and it was from the sixties.

 

[markw]

Simply put, Bose is to audio what Rolex is to watches.

Both are severely outperformed by more pedestrian items costing much, much less but the "wow" factor on those easily impressed by the sheer amount of money spent and advertising hype is undeniable.

 

[MDS]

I think it was actually:

<b>Boom Chicka Boom Don't You Just Love It</b>

and it was from the sixties.

Maybe very late sixties - it's on Super Hits of the Seventies, Have A Nice Day. Daddy Dewdrop.

 

[soniceuphoria]

"Simply put, Bose is to audio what Rolex is to watches."
No. Rolex are hand crafted quality overpriced watches.
BOSE is Badly Overpriced Subpar Equipment
The only likeness shared by the two are the excessive overpriceing and great advertising strategy

 

[zipper]

Rolex actually has some quality & resale value.

 

[furrycute]

Even though Rolexes are overpriced, they are very well constructed. At least the quality part is its redeeming value.

This is not true of Bose. Bose products are overpriced AND poorly constructed.

 

[audioqueso]

Hello everyone, newbie here. I've been reading on this forums for a long time and just decided to register.

Well, like furrycute said, Rolex are overpriced, but unless you own one, you wouldn't know that it's worth the price. You can have a 1980 Rolex look like brand new... and no one would be able to tell. Rolex doesn't want anyone wearing an ugly Rolex, so they refurbish an owner's watch every few years to make it look and work like new. Polish, dip, recut, the internals, the works. Best watch company I've ever had to deal with.

Now Bose... I had a co-worker of mine once tell me "... if I ever make that much money, I'll buy a Bose. Those are the best speakers I've ever heard in my life..." It's amazing what Bose can do with their marketing. To convince people that they are in fact listening to the best speakers in the world. You can imagine my response.

 

[markw]

Bose. Rolex. Whatever. It still boils down to the same thing.

Pride of ownership, pure and simple. They are both jewelery that happens to serve another purpose as an excuse to own it ans show it off.

Now, if Rolex kept better time than a Timex we might be on to something but, as it stands, for the purpose of timekeeping, it's way overpriced.

And, for the price difference between the two I could simply buy a new timex when the batteries died and still come out cheaper in the long run. ...and keep at least as good time.

 

[zipper]

No Mark, they are not the same. Not close.

I've had my Rolex for 5 years & it keeps great time. Keeping time can only get so good. Yes, there are many watches out there less expensive that also keep great time. What you buy in a Rolex is a nice piece of jewelry along with an excellent time piece. Gold is gold.

Bose is a cheaply made box with a name on it.........& it doesn't sound as good as it should for what you have to pay for it.


A better comparison might be Rolex & Mercedes Benz...............it's indulgence.

 

[Rob Babcock]

A B(l)lose system an a Rolex both have one thing in common, or can- conspicuous consumption. Both are frequently attempts to display status or wealth to impress others. And both will likely impress the rubes and uninitiated. I guess where the analogy breaks down a bit is that a more educated person may still be impressed by the Rolex, provided he's not very spiritually enlightened ( ), while the more knowledgeable audio fans will merely laugh at your pressboard cubes.

 

[markw]

I think you've naled it, Zipper.

What you buy in a Rolex is a nice piece of jewelry along with an excellent time piece. ...A better comparison might be Rolex & Mercedes Benz...............it's indulgence.

Consider also that Bose is an indulgence to most that buy it also.

I don't put anyone down for owning a Rolex. If it makes 'em feel good, then more power to them. But, if they try to tell me they own it bacause it keeps better time or something like that, well...

Likewise I don't down Bose owners. For some (and I know a few) they are exactly what they want and need*. ...little teeny tiny cubes that are architectularly (sp?) invisible and put out some sort of not too objectionable sound to fill their designer digs. ...and they feel good that all (well, most) of their feriends are impressed with the name 'cause they are constantly hearing and reading about how great Bose is.

* ...and deserve

 

[Resident Loser]

Actually...

...if I were going to get into HT(which I'm not as I consider it to be a waste of time, effort and energy) I'd probably get a Bose 3-2-1 system. It requires little or no effort to install and it certainly sounds impressive...and all out of two speakers and the bass module. No extra wiring, no extra speakers out the wazoo...no special rooms.

So what if it might be overblown or synthetic...consider the source. Very little of what you see or hear on the screen isn't artificial anyway, so who gives the proverbial rat's @$$.

I suppose if maybe Yamahoo came up with it, it'd be okee-dokee, eh...like the YSP or whatever...48 switching amplifiers(what is that like Class G or H amps?) that shoot the sound around the room like so many laser bursts from those mechanical lizard-thingees...

Maybe if more people just plugged'n'played with systems like the Bose, instead of laboring over all the specs and hype, they'd have the time to realize what a colossal waste it all really is...lousy remakes of movies that weren't so hot in the first place...and maybe after that they'd give the whole CD and digital a good eyeball and come to the conclusion that most of it is cr@p too..."digital remasters" of the same old catalog that's been bought and paid for many times over...

Just as an aside are we supposed to somehow be impressed with terms such as "Digtally remastered"? Well, boys and girls, don't be. The simple transition from analog to digital requires a digital remastering...what's the big hooha? No magic, no hocus-pocus, just money in the bank...la-de-dah!

BTW...I have a Seiko self-winder I bought a lifetime ago. Cost me $39.95 at Alexander's(a now defunct NY/NJ chain)...you'd be surprised how many folks have asked "Is that a Rolex?" So much for the exclusive jewelry aspect.

jimHJJ(...in a land where tee-vee is just tee-vee...)

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

Resident Loser is right, we're all doomed and everything we own, or want to own is a complete waste of time.


Well, maybe not, but there certainly are more important things in life. I just spent the last 3 (sunny, warm, & wonderful) days at the beach with the kids and could have cared less about Audio, Television, or any other consumer product save for sunscreen.


No point really, just rambling on..........

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

Just curious, RL, but if you think HT is a waste of time, why are you here?

 

[Resident Loser]

Two words...

Just curious, RL, but if you think HT is a waste of time, why are you here?

...analog stereo...whatever other info I glean in the process gets filed away for future reference.

I like to answer questions when I can re: my main interest...but I find I must be somewhat conversant in the newer stuff; that doesn't mean I have to like it. Particularly in that I see HT as the cause for the demise of reasonably-priced, full-featured, hi-fi components.

jimHJJ(...relatively simple I guess...)