bookshelf speaker for PC

Sheep

Sheep

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Darth Mike said:
:cool: IMHO with the light wood and the silver plastic the C-1s look cheap, but a dark woodgrain would really set them off and my opinion would change. Not that I have anything against them the Energy C-1s are nice.
I have the Black Ash model, but I couldn't find a picture on the net that was of decent quality.

....(5 minutes pass).....

Here, I took 4 pics, with and without flash.

Grill On:





Grill Off:





SheepStar
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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The RTi4's are simple to drive. The CSi5 and towers are difficult. Those RTi4's sound so good by themselves, I think I do them injustice running 7.1.
 
mike c

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sorry about the primus comments ... but it really was subjective (kinda like girl looks) before i bought my infinity beta speaks, the primus line was the one I was decided on buying.

I will be nearfield to the speakers - extremely nearfield ... me 1 foot away, speaks 20" away from each other. (20" LCD monitor)

I'll just be using this for gaming.
 
mike c

mike c

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Buckeyefan 1 said:
The RTi4's are simple to drive. The CSi5 and towers are difficult. Those RTi4's sound so good by themselves, I think I do them injustice running 7.1.
thanks for the info buckeye. looks like I will have to do a visual survey of the looks this friday. (only the monitor 30, 70, rti6, rti10 is on display)

from the pics, it looks like the rti4's dont have speaker grill posts ... is it magnetized? (unlike the rti6)
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

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I've done an ABX with the Insignias being recorded in an anechoic chamber vs. the original sound file and also with a reverberent room simulation applied to the original recording and the recorded speaker. They sound surprisingly good. With a cabinet modification to reduce/eliminate resonances, they sounded audibly better. By "better" I mean that obvious resonance coloration in the midrange was removed by damping the cabinet. It is audible to the point where I could tell with high accuracy the difference between the modified and unmodified speaker. And while the cabinet resonances are not as apparent in the anechoic recording, they become very distracting when heard in a reverberent environment.

All my rambling above might be fine and dandy, but I don't know if these are really available to you, Mike. They are Best Buy's "house brand" budget speaker here in the US, and I don't think BB ships internationally. If they do, then you might be in luck, as they are actually quite good for the price. The off axis response leaves something to be desired, but that is a product of the tweeter placement and the low-cost pricepoint. And besides, if these are going to be speakers that sit on your desk off axis response becomes somewhat of a moot point, as you're not really aiming for room filling, super accurate sound.

If anyone has any questions regarding the ABX, just PM me and I'll explain further, but I don't feel that I need to waste time in Mike's thread to justify and explain my claims.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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mike c said:
thanks for the info buckeye. looks like I will have to do a visual survey of the looks this friday. (only the monitor 30, 70, rti6, rti10 is on display)

from the pics, it looks like the rti4's dont have speaker grill posts ... is it magnetized? (unlike the rti6)
I just checked mine. They have the silver nubs just like the rest of my Polks. Not sure why the display photo doesn't show them.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-V9P4gaBa3GC/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=107RTI4C

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Performance-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0000E2XEC/sr=8-3/qid=1158717698/ref=pd_bbs_3/002-5518118-5762461?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Have you heard the RTi4's? I had the opportunity to purchase the RTi6's at a great price, but IMO they didn't hold a candle to the sound of the RTi4's. I tried to talk myself into the 6's because of size, but the sound of the 4's won out. Plus, the 6's are huge.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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jaxvon said:
I've done an ABX with the Insignias being recorded in an anechoic chamber vs. the original sound file and also with a reverberent room simulation applied to the original recording and the recorded speaker. They sound surprisingly good. With a cabinet modification to reduce/eliminate resonances, they sounded audibly better. By "better" I mean that obvious resonance coloration in the midrange was removed by damping the cabinet. It is audible to the point where I could tell with high accuracy the difference between the modified and unmodified speaker. And while the cabinet resonances are not as apparent in the anechoic recording, they become very distracting when heard in a reverberent environment.

All my rambling above might be fine and dandy, but I don't know if these are really available to you, Mike. They are Best Buy's "house brand" budget speaker here in the US, and I don't think BB ships internationally. If they do, then you might be in luck, as they are actually quite good for the price. The off axis response leaves something to be desired, but that is a product of the tweeter placement and the low-cost pricepoint. And besides, if these are going to be speakers that sit on your desk off axis response becomes somewhat of a moot point, as you're not really aiming for room filling, super accurate sound.

If anyone has any questions regarding the ABX, just PM me and I'll explain further, but I don't feel that I need to waste time in Mike's thread to justify and explain my claims.
I'm surprised you didn't recommend the DV62 bookshelves. Do you think they're too large to sit on a desk? How did you like the Insignia's compared to your Venturi bookshelves?

The RTi4's are almost a foot deep, so take that into consideration, Mike.
 
mike c

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that sucks on the silver nubs ...

but the pics on the sites you posted for the rti4's look a lot better than the ones on the polk website. do they actually look closer to the pics on the polk website or amazon?

yeah, I already made paper mock ups of the footprints of these speaks ... guess I really have to see them in person.

the rti4 and monitor 40 have similar footprints ...
7" x 11.5" ; 7" x 12" respectively

the monitor 30 has a very small footprint
 
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Darth Mike

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Sheep said:
I have the Black Ash model, but I couldn't find a picture on the net that was of decent quality.

....(5 minutes pass).....

Here, I took 4 pics, with and without flash.

PICS....
SheepStar
Those are much better.
 
mike c

mike c

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first pic, I put the sub on the left side of the table ...
problem: I could locate the sound coming from behind me when seated

2nd pic, pic of the mock up monitor 30 beside the pc monitor is 11" high ... a bit short for me.
the rti 4 is 12" high, the monitor 40 is 15" high (looks like the monitor 40 is edging ahead)
 
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Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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mike c said:
that sucks on the silver nubs ...

but the pics on the sites you posted for the rti4's look a lot better than the ones on the polk website. do they actually look closer to the pics on the polk website or amazon?

yeah, I already made paper mock ups of the footprints of these speaks ... guess I really have to see them in person.

the rti4 and monitor 40 have similar footprints ...
7" x 11.5" ; 7" x 12" respectively

the monitor 30 has a very small footprint
Go to the Crutchfield site, and click on XL view. I think the speakers look even better in person with the grill off. Do you have enough room for a 12" deep speaker on your desk?

Don't forget about these little guys - they'll put out as much bass as some PC subs and are only 9" deep.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV62si-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00006JPDI/sr=1-2/qid=1158839238/ref=sr_1_2/002-4931733-2619213?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
 
mike c

mike c

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Buckeyefan 1 said:
Go to the Crutchfield site, and click on XL view. I think the speakers look even better in person with the grill off. Do you have enough room for a 12" deep speaker on your desk?

Don't forget about these little guys - they'll put out as much bass as some PC subs.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV62si-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00006JPDI/sr=1-2/qid=1158839238/ref=sr_1_2/002-4931733-2619213?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
yup, the XL pic is currently my desktop wallpaper ... hoping to get used to it :)

the BIC speakers don't really have the "looks" to be part of my choices.

underneath the cardboard mock up is actually a 7"x12" piece of paper :)
so 12" deep shouldnt be a problem
 
Buckeyefan 1

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mike c said:
yup, the XL pic is currently my desktop wallpaper ... hoping to get used to it :)

the BIC speakers don't really have the "looks" to be part of my choices.

underneath the cardboard mock up is actually a 7"x12" piece of paper :)
so 12" deep shouldnt be a problem
Sorry to ask a repetitive ?, but what's going to be driving these?

You don't have access to Swan, do you?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836136102
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836136105
 
mike c

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at the very least a 40wpc rotel integrated OR an old kenwood integrated (dont have the specs, but it used to run speakers that had 10" woofers, 4" mids, tweeter 6ohms 80w max input) - ill look for the manual of that one.

im sure those swans aren't available here but their footprints are a bit too big. I think best footprint I can do is 85 square inches.
 
mike c

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found the manual ... hmmm

Kenwood A-45 Stereo Integrated Amplifier (was part of a component system)
63hz - 12500hz 0.7%THD
40wpc 8ohms

that sucks.

but I can use a Kenwood equalizer it was partnered with
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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mike c said:
found the manual ... hmmm

Kenwood A-45 Stereo Integrated Amplifier (was part of a component system)
63hz - 12500hz 0.7%THD
40wpc 8ohms

that sucks.

but I can use a Kenwood equalizer it was partnered with
Wow, those are some crazy narrow specs. No wonder Kenwood is out of business. A friend in college had an entire Kenwood rack system with towers. It never sounded right to me. Very loud in the midrange, no bass, and no highs. Those specs you listed all make sense to me know. I'm sure an eq couldn't hurt. ;)
 
mike c

mike c

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hey buckeye, went to see the rti6 and monitor 30 last night (see, not listen) [also saw the rti10, monitor 70 - wow]

anyway, the rti actually looks better made than the monitor series

I have two questions ...

as per specs, the rti4 has and 11.5" depth,
1) does that include the wall mount and rubber thingy at the back? or is it 11.5" + wall bracket?

the rti6 has two ports - a power port and an ordinary port at the bottom ...
2) does the rti4 also have two ports?

edit: checked the online manual ... it would seem the answer to both is yes
just trying to confirm buckeye ...

also, have you ever A/Bed the monitor and rti series?
 
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mike c

mike c

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nice xbox ... lowest paradigms here are the monitors (a bit big and expensive for me), are you left handed using a right handed mouse?
 
xboxweasel

xboxweasel

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mike c said:
nice xbox ... lowest paradigms here are the monitors (a bit big and expensive for me), are you left handed using a right handed mouse?
You mean the monitors are the lowest you can buy in your area? I read good things about the Atoms. Here, other sites, my friend uses them as his surrounds. For the money I just went out and got 2 pair. One for my PC and one for my girlfriend. And I use my receiver's zone 1 + 2 outputs to run them both.

I am having prolems with my right arm....Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or Tendonitis. Not really sure. But I have been giving my right arm a break and switched the mouse to my left. :)

I did not know they make left handed mice. But for that small percentage of people that are I guess it makes sense. I bet they cost more though. Supply and demand. :(
 

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