BMR DIY kit cabinet news

Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Spartan
For those who are interested in the often mentioned BMR DIY Kit, the parts kit for these wonderful sounding speakers has been available at Meniscus Audio.

Now, there is some news about cabinets for the BMR. Dennis Murphy says he thinks he’s ironed things out with the BMR DIY cabinet kits. These kits are sold as flat-pack kits. They require assembly.
  • A Baltic birch flat-pack kit, with no imperfections, will cost $169 for each cabinet.

  • A flat-pack kit, suitable for painting or veneering (there will be some football shaped patches) will cost $149 each.

  • In both kits, a front baffle with 3/4" rounded over edges is available for an additional $15 each.
The flat-packs will have butt joints. Leland says mitered edges cause too many fit problems for people without the proper clamps, etc. So that means there will be exposed ply on the edges. Some people like that look, others don't. But for the next two months or so, that will be the only option.

However--Leland will be experimenting with a new routing process that will leave no exposed ply edges. If it works out, you will be able to get either the flat-packs or an assembled cabinet with only birch veneer showing. That will definitely cost more, but Dennis says he won't know just how much until Leland actually builds a cabinet and can see how much extra labor is involved. Leland will start accepting orders next week. Dennis says he'll get general info on the kit up on his web site over the next few days.

You can see Leland's website here: https://www.speakerhardware.com/
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Ninja
Yup, this is really good news, and I hope it works out well. The BMRs are fantastic speakers and making them more readily available to people is a great gift!

I honestly could have been ecstatically happy had I ordered 7 of these instead of just the three I did! In a small to medium sized room, they are more than sufficient to match tower speakers at twice Dennis' original price point, and frankly they outperform speakers much more expensive still.
To be fair, I am still incredibly grateful to call a pair of Phil 3s mine, and would not give them up if I had it to do over again... but the BMRs are that good!
 
NINaudio

NINaudio

Audioholic Chief
I may look to these for a surround speaker upgrade at some point down the line. Thanks for the info!
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Spartan
I may look to these for a surround speaker upgrade at some point down the line. Thanks for the info!
Personally, I think it would be a waste to use these excellent speakers for surround sound channels. They are easily worthy of front left & right channel use, or as an outstanding 2-channel audio only system. See what ryanosaur says above.

Edit: When I listen to music, I most often use only 2 channels. I tend to use 5 channels for movies, Netfllix, TV. Obviously, others have different preferences about this.
 
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NINaudio

NINaudio

Audioholic Chief
Personally, I think it would be a waste to use these excellent speakers for surround sound channels. They are easily worthy of front left & right channel use, or as an outstanding 2-channel audio only system. See what ryanosaur says above.
I'm getting Song 3's for my front 3, so it would be more about having similar quality speakers all around. As well as giving me an intro into building something more complex than my sub box.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
I may look to these for a surround speaker upgrade at some point down the line. Thanks for the info!
Personally, I think it would be a waste to use these excellent speakers for surround sound channels. They are easily worthy of front left & right channel use, or as an outstanding 2-channel audio only system. See what ryanosaur says above.
This conversation does beg the question:
Didn't @D Murphy do a center channel mod with a BMR laid on its side? Was it simply rotating the ribbon 90 degrees (something we could do when assembling the speaker)? If so, that would be ideal! @ryanosaur , don't you have something like this for your center?
Just looking ahead to see if there is a reasonable option for people wanting to have a matched front 3 for their HT/Audio system.
Alternately, perhaps there is a commonly available (economical) speaker to use for people for whom music reigns supreme, but still want to have a reasonable timbre match for a HT center. I know the NHT SuperZeros have been recommended as an economical surround, but assume something a bit larger would be recommended for a center!
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Ninja
Randomly...

The center BMR I have is a standard BMR with the tweeter rotated 90º. I did confirm this between conversations and inspection of the XO. I am planning to get mine realigned upright as I get some work on my room done.

I've been on record saying this before: I planned my setup around the goal of getting into multi-channel audio, mostly. I'm usually around 95% music... sometimes that varies, and to be fair, I don't have an extensive collection of such music, but it is growing nonetheless. Therefore I wanted my 5 main channels to match as closely as possible and acheived this through close matching of Raal Tweeter and 'Planar' mids (the BMR driver of course operating as a hybrid piston and planar), and the matching amplification for all 5 of those channels....
Anyway, all of this is to say that they do very well for me in my rig. They were excellent speakers up front, and they are excellent speakers on my sides.
Having not heard the Song3s, I can only surmise that Dennis' voicing will still be a prominent trait and the BMRs would be a solution for matching to them in that situation. They are large for that purpose, but so are most worthy stand mounts (I would seldom recommend one go with the smaller offering if given an opportunity for a larger (think Monitor Audio Silver 100 over Silver 50, for example)).

I fully support the idea of building a pair of BMRs if for no other reason than experimenting with a more complex build. :)

I think when the rubber hits the road, I'd put a little more value on starting a separate system with those DIY BMRs and putting matching Supercharged Song Surrounds on that main system. But that's just me. I don't mind the mis-matched appearance in my private room. Part of my DIY aspiration is to build a matching system for the greatroom. By the time I get to the point of needing to "upgrade" my private rig, I will make it matching, too. :D

Just looking ahead to see if there is a reasonable option for people wanting to have a matched front 3 for their HT/Audio system.
I've thought about reaching out to Meniscus to see if they would sell a single BMR kit so I could experiment with a single Rear Center (DTS 5.1 doesn't use a Front Center, rather a Rear Center... DTS Neural parses that signal to the Rear Surrounds which works well enough, but c'mon... I wanna nerd out and see what it's like. ;)).

Edit: When I listen to music, I most often use only 2 channels. I tend to use 5 channels for movies, Netfllix, TV. Obviously, others have different preferences about this.
I've had some enjoyable success using the DTS Neural upmixer with electronica. Have not enjoyed it with more traditional Rock, Jazz or Art (Orchestral/Chamber) music (which I keep in 2.1 or Pure Direct).
 
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ryanosaur

ryanosaur

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This conversation does beg the question:
Didn't @D Murphy do a center channel mod with a BMR laid on its side? Was it simply rotating the ribbon 90 degrees (something we could do when assembling the speaker)? If so, that would be ideal! @ryanosaur , don't you have something like this for your center?
Just looking ahead to see if there is a reasonable option for people wanting to have a matched front 3 for their HT/Audio system.
Alternately, perhaps there is a commonly available (economical) speaker to use for people for whom music reigns supreme, but still want to have a reasonable timbre match for a HT center. I know the NHT SuperZeros have been recommended as an economical surround, but assume something a bit larger would be recommended for a center!
As an aside and from that other site, I believe there has been discussion and work on a Dennis Murphy BMR Center (W/T-M/W) which, IIRC, he said would be offered through Salk Sound.
(Not to be confused with a custom BMR center that another member of our fora communities commisioned through Rick Craig/Selah Audio while Dennis was recovering.)
 
D

D Murphy

Junior Audioholic
This conversation does beg the question:
Didn't @D Murphy do a center channel mod with a BMR laid on its side? Was it simply rotating the ribbon 90 degrees (something we could do when assembling the speaker)? If so, that would be ideal! @ryanosaur , don't you have something like this for your center?
Just looking ahead to see if there is a reasonable option for people wanting to have a matched front 3 for their HT/Audio system.
Alternately, perhaps there is a commonly available (economical) speaker to use for people for whom music reigns supreme, but still want to have a reasonable timbre match for a HT center. I know the NHT SuperZeros have been recommended as an economical surround, but assume something a bit larger would be recommended for a center!
The BMR works fine as a center either upright or on its side with the tweeter rotated. The thru-hole for the tweeter is just a plain circle, so rotating it is a trivial task. I think Meniscus Mark would be willing to sell a single kit, and I know Leland will sell single flat packs or cabinets--his pricing is per-unit.
 

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