Shock

Shock

Audioholic General
I'm going to need 5 minutes alone with those images.......
 
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Missionman

Junior Audioholic
bad idea to use big rears mate, the fronts are the main speakers for the most of the clarity and quality sound productions.
Big rears will destroy the clarity of the fronts and produce distortion, have done this before and wasnt happy with the sound produced, i dont think you would be happy with it too mate.
Best to stick to smaller, less powerful rears, as the rear speakers output on your amp cuts down speaker clarity levels automatically with small speakers, which leaves the fronts (main speakers) to produce sound to the full.

Hope this helped you out
 
TjMV3

TjMV3

Full Audioholic
How's it going with your Jamo C607 system?

Any more thoughts you'd like to share?
 
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chipped

Enthusiast
yeah

Should have got smaller rears and bigger fronts, even in multi channel stereo mode using a stereo source, the rears are not as loud as the fronts.

Gotta say though, you cant beat a good pair of headphones for music. To get full range bass at high levels with no dead spots you need to spend AU $40k+
 
TjMV3

TjMV3

Full Audioholic
So, you don't like the C607?

Rear speaker information is typically lower than the front channels. Most receivers allow you to adjust the rear speaker levels, though. Have you tried that?

What do you mean by dead spots? You have areas in the soundstage that are missing bass information?
 
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chipped

Enthusiast
So, you don't like the C607?

Rear speaker information is typically lower than the front channels. Most receivers allow you to adjust the rear speaker levels, though. Have you tried that?
I love the speakers, they are amazing, no doubt about that. But I thought multi channel stereo would replicate the 2 channels on the rear speakers and increase the sound level. But it just sends a piss weak signal to them, if I set them to large I expect a TRUE full range signal in multi channel stereo.

I have increased the rear speaker level but it dosent change the fact that the rear speakers are not receiving a full range signal. Multi channel stereo is misleading, its sneaky dodgy advertising.

What do you mean by dead spots? You have areas in the soundstage that are missing bass information?
Yes, I think TRUE multi channel stereo would solve this though.
 
TjMV3

TjMV3

Full Audioholic
chipped, when you played your music in multi-channel format, was it through your receiver's digital DSP manipulation, which creates pseudo multi-channel from any two-channel material?

Or were you actually listening to a SACD disc or DVD-Audio disc that was mixed and engineered in multi-channel?

Seems to me your disappointment is in either the recorded material's multi-channel mix or your receiver's pseudo multi-channel option.

Admittedly, I'm a two channel guy at heart. I don't bother much with multi-channel music. I do have several DVD-Audio and SACD discs that have multi-channel mixes and I have given it a try. But for some reason it doesn't appeal to me much.

Maybe someone else who is much more knowledgeable of surround sound, can provide some more insight.

I can tell you what my buddy and I did once. We took all of his speakers from his 5.1 HT/music system and stacked them across the front.:D

In other words, we left the center channel and front Left/Right floorstanders exactly where they were and we added the two rear surrounds...to the front. We placed them roughly a half meter (a foot and a half) to the outside of the front Left/Right floorstanders.

It was quite interesting. It took a bit of fiddling with the placement, but I thought it worked well in his living room, because he had a very large and wide room. As well as fairly deep. Quite a wall of sound.

I thought that was a fun experiment to try.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I kind prefer curvy but not to big. The rears I went after have very nice curves.:D
 
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Captainmorgan89

Audioholic
In my opinion, big rears are a waste if you are not going to be listing to multi-channel music. Smaller is better (in this case ;)), that way you have more room to work with, and a better WAF!
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
In my opinion, big rears are a waste if you are not going to be listing to multi-channel music. Smaller is better (in this case ;)), that way you have more room to work with, and a better WAF!
I agree. I'm pretty sure you'd be hard pressed to find many movie soundtracks that are full range in all channels. Besides, you'd still need a subwoofer for the LFE channel.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
In my opinion, big rears are a waste if you are not going to be listing to multi-channel music. Smaller is better (in this case ;)), that way you have more room to work with, and a better WAF!
Yeah they tend to prefer having smaller rears, but I don't mind big ones.:D

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TjMV3

TjMV3

Full Audioholic
I don't discriminate against any rears, regardless of shape and size.

I believe every rear brings their own unique and individual benefits, for certain applications.

Much like the music emanating from my front floorstanders, I prefer my rears to be warm, cozy and inviting.

It's always been my focus to extrapolate and utilize rears to their fullest and most beneficial capabilities.
 
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chipped

Enthusiast
Im using a 2 channel source, all I want to do is have the same signal/power going to the rears as the fronts.

Im missing out on precious chest thumping sound.

Big rears are a bonus for games and movies, more boom for ya buck :D
 
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chipped

Enthusiast
Sorry for ressurrecting this old thread but I just wanted to share some news. I found a setting called "BASS MIX" which I had set to "MIX", after setting it to "BOTH" I had full range sound in the rear speakers and a massive increase in loudness. Now I dont get any dead spots and the bass is mind blowing.

This is using a marantz SR5003 amp.

P.S - This setting only takes effect during PCM or analog stereo playback.
 
TjMV3

TjMV3

Full Audioholic
Cool! Then you got what you were looking for.

Cool feature!

How's those C607's treating you? Still loving them?

No need to apologize. Bring up this thread any time you want. I want to hear updates and how your C607 are working for you.
 
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chipped

Enthusiast
Oh yeah we are loving them, they are awesome. While buying we listened to Wharfedale, Bowers and Wilkins, Klipsch, Jensen etc Cant remember any model names but these blew them all out of the water.

Your review actually influenced our final decision, so thank you very much, we ended up with speakers much better than anything else we were looking at :)
 
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