Best Floorstand Speakers for Music 2009-2010; Buged $1000

[danitim77]

they are amazing speakers .... the sound is great, don't get me wrong ... but to me they seem little bright. The male voice is not the problem ... it is just making obvious that they are little towar bright range. The bass in male voices are mostly missing. My crossover is set on 100HZ on my Onkyo. The EQ is fine ...

May be I should also rise the spearkes on something because I am very close to them, because the room is small and being close to them, the high freq tend to be stronger .... do not know

 

[InTheIndustry]

they are amazing speakers .... the sound is great, don't get me wrong ... but to me they seem little bright. The male voice is not the problem ... it is just making obvious that they are little towar bright range. The bass in male voices are mostly missing. My crossover is set on 100HZ on my Onkyo. The EQ is fine ...

May be I should also rise the spearkes on something because I am very close to them, because the room is small and being close to them, the high freq tend to be stronger .... do not know

I have no other way to put this than to just say it how it is..... You need to reconsider your speaker choice/wants & why you want towers. I'm not saying this to beat you up, I'm trying to save you time & money. If it were as easy as people on the Internet say or like to pretend it is, I wouldn't have a job doing this 7 days a week. You are overbuying for your room by going with towers.

Also, I must apologize. I read your OP, but missed on the room size you have. I would've typed something differently instead of my original post.

Even ifmyou choose to ignore my advice below, you positively, absolutely need to set your speakers to "large" in the receiver. 100hz crossover without a sub is why you aren't getting bass or mids, so change that as well if the receiver does not do so automatically. You also need to tell the receiver NO sub in the setup menu.

My absolute best recommendation in that small of a room: Why you would not consider a high quality monitor on stands? In no way are you using a tower to it's potential in a room that size. In your room this type of layout will give you the absolute best sound for your $. Even without a sub, a high quality monitor like the Phase Technology PC 1.5 will out perform most towers in your room, listening volume, & budget.

We have used them in several systems and they are stunners. Here is a recent review from Home Theater Magazine: http://www.hometheater.com/compactspeakers/phase_technology_pc-15_speaker_system/index3.html There are matching stands available & dealers who do good volume through Phase Tech can get you a great price that should be in your budget.

This would be a strong option to consider & should give you fantastic results given your variables. Good luck!

 

[zieglj01]

Even ifmyou choose to ignore my advice below, you positively, absolutely need to set your speakers to "large" in the receiver. 100hz crossover without a sub is why you aren't getting bass or mids, so change that as well if the receiver does not do so automatically. You also need to tell the receiver NO sub in the setup menu.

The Boston PV500 sub, will not go any lower than the VR3
tower speakers. The PV500 is rated -3db at 38 hz.

The Boston VR3 is neutral and wiill seem bright to some people.
For that size room, to expierment with out a sub and do proper
set up in the receiver menu - should help. Also, some form of
room treatment would not hurt either. A big tower with 93 db
sensitivity - in a 12x12 room will turn your head. I also know
as good as the Boston's are - they will not be for every one.

 

[sholling]

I have to agree with the others, set the VR3s to large/full (depending on the receiver. Then make sure you have at least 18" behind the towers. I've lived those speakers sitting no more than 8' away just fine so I know all it should take is setting them up correctly. Start with just stereo and once that is dialed in you can worry about the other speakers.

 

[InTheIndustry]

The Boston PV500 sub, will not go any lower than the VR3
tower speakers. The PV500 is rated -3db at 38 hz.

The Boston VR3 is neutral and wiill seem bright to some people.
For that size room, to expierment with out a sub and do proper
set up in the receiver menu - should help. Also, some form of
room treatment would not hurt either. A big tower with 93 db
sensitivity - in a 12x12 room will turn your head. I also know
as good as the Boston's are - they will not be for every one.

If the crossover in the receiver is set to 100hz then the VR3 will not receive signals lower than that because the receiver is sending 99hz & down to the sub.... Which isn't there. Also, the OP stated (at least I think he did anyway?) that he does not want a sub?

Regardless, once properly set up, a tower speaker like the VR3 with 2 7" woofers is not going to offer anything over an equal quality monitor in a 12'x12' room. In fact, for the same $, the OP would get a higher quality speaker if he went with a monitor & still not lose anything on the low end given his listening habits & expressed needs/wants. Should the OP ever add a sub, he certainly would be better off with monitors because the sub will handle his low end frequencies & not the 7" woofers in the tower. If his room were considerably larger and/or his listening habits different I would certainly not recommend monitors. But in this case......

 

[InTheIndustry]

I have to agree with the others, set the VR3s to large/full (depending on the receiver. Then make sure you have at least 18" behind the towers. I've lived those speakers sitting no more than 8' away just fine so I know all it should take is setting them up correctly. Start with just stereo and once that is dialed in you can worry about the other speakers.

How large is your room?

 

[sholling]

How large is your room?

I've moved since those days but my living room was 12 x 12ish and open to the dining room.

 

[zieglj01]

If the crossover in the receiver is set to 100hz then the VR3 will not receive signals lower than that because the receiver is sending 99hz & down to the sub.... Which isn't there. Also, the OP stated (at least I think he did anyway?) that he does not want a sub?

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He did buy the PV500 sub - He did hook it up with 100 hz crossover.
I was agreeing with you to not use the sub for now - and to properly
set up his receiver for 2 channel and set subwoofer to no. I also know
that monitors will work good in his room. I told him at the other forum
about running 2 channel full range. The Boston towers do have good
bass - that sub is a weak sub. He had his mind set on towers.

 

[InTheIndustry]

He did buy the PV500 sub - He did hook it up with 100 hz crossover.
I was agreeing with you to not use the sub for now - and to properly
set up his receiver for 2 channel and set subwoofer to no. I also know
that monitors will work good in his room. I did not want to requote you
word for word. I told him at the other forum what you said here, about
running 2 channel full range. The Boston towers do have good bass.

Good looking out on the fact he did a sub. I missed that! And, after re-reading my post... sorry for coming off snarky! I was not intending that, but I think I did.

I wonder where his sub crossover is at? Regardless, setting the mains to say, 60hz & the sub @ 80hz should smooth everything out properly so he doesn't have gaps in the frequent range. Still, that's quite a lot of speaker for that room.

 

[InTheIndustry]

I've moved since those days but my living room was 12 x 12ish and open to the dining room.

But the speakers would see it as all one open area? Or was it walled off or had some sort of boundaries? Just trying to picture how it was set up. Low freqs are a lot longer than high ones. That's why I am asking. Just trying to picture your reference point with those. Thanks!

 

[zieglj01]

Good looking out on the fact he did a sub. I missed that! And, after re-reading my post... sorry for coming off snarky! I was not intending that, but I think I did.

I wonder where his sub crossover is at? Regardless, setting the mains to say, 60hz & the sub @ 80hz should smooth everything out properly so he doesn't have gaps in the frequent range. Still, that's quite a lot of speaker for that room.

Your just tired from selling all those Phase Tech speakers. In a room
that size, a 2-way monitor is enough for me. That PV50O is a little
weak.

 

[sholling]

It was open to the dining room. The VR3s will play down to 35hz so if I were the OP I'd just run them full range until I was comfortable with them and only then add a sub for the surrounds. Really as long as you have them properly EQed for the room they don't get in your face. But what they do need is room for the port (rear ported) to work. That's why I'm careful to always include the need for 18+ inches behind them and at least 2 feet to the nearest side wall. The fact that the crossover was set for 100hz when every receiver that I used them with (Pioneer and Onkyo) always set them for full range makes me wonder if the auto setup was run.

 

[danitim77]

hi guys ... thnaks all for the comments.

The setup was manualy done. The front speakers (vr3) were from the begining on large ... the sub is only for the rest (central and vrx). I am happy with the bass ... the problem is in the low-mid (missing)... and the high and mid-high seem to have some extra. I gave you the example of male voice. Also the guitar seems very bright and the cymbals from drums ... but the idea with monitors is good. I think ...one of the problem is that I am too close to the towers, and they should be higer on the ground ... high frec are closer to me than the sub from the towers...
my room is 12x12
InTheIndustry >>> I do not want to get monitors because I plan to move in a larger room in 2 years