Axiom Audio EP500 Review

gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><A href="http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/loudspeakers/AxiomEP500reviewp1.php"><IMG style="WIDTH: 106px; HEIGHT: 125px" alt=[sub1] hspace=10 src="http://www.audioholics.com/news/thumbs/sub1_th.jpg" align=left border=0></A>Last fall when Axiom Audio invited us all the way to Canada to take a factory tour, I had no idea they had a couple aces in their sleeve with their new DSP driven EP500 and EP600 subwoofers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Based on the performance measurements we conducted and our extensive listening tests, we awarded the EP500 our 2004 Product of the Year for the subwoofer category.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have now listened to the EP500 in two completely different listening environments and systems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In both instances, the EP500 proved to be an outstanding performer regardless of price.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It had the ability to command the respect of any bassaholic whether their preferences lean towards home theater or music.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></P>
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geo75

Audioholic Intern
Great Review

Thanks for the review I'm waiting for mine. If my wife doen't kill me first.
 
HookedOnSound

HookedOnSound

Full Audioholic
Great Review!

But I have 1 question: The review mentions that thicker MDF would have been preferred but I don't recall seeing any mention of negative performance results in the article.

I understand that thicker MDF is usually desirable to prevent resonance issues but if none were observed, than could there be another reason?

Thanks,
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
But I have 1 question: The review mentions that thicker MDF would have been preferred but I don't recall seeing any mention of negative performance results in the article.
Of course I am nitpicking as I always want things to be better :p Despite the EP500's great performance, there are always ways to tweak out more performance. Perhaps its minuscule, but isn't that what being an Audioholic is all about ;)

I felt the cabinet construction could have been a bit more rigid and inert, but it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the product.

I suggest reading an article Mark Sanfilipo did on Lowering the Mechnical Noisefloor in Loudspeakers to dive into more detail on this topic. Part II is coming soon...
 
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9f9c7z

Banned
Thanks for the great review …
:)

I added up all the stars (80) and divided by the number categories (17) and come up with an overall rating of 4.7 stars, or 4-3/4 stars for the Canadian subwoofer. Where does your 5-star overall rating come from? Did you give extra credit for the free Moosehead beer while at the factory?
:)
 
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tdeluce

Audioholic
Great review and sounds like an awesome sub.

I don't see any distortion ratings...

How does it compare to the HGS-15X?
 
Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
Can I just say that I had my heart set on an SVS cylinder when planning my HT. I mean, it was the first thing I was SURE of and I never wavered over the 2+ years of planning. I even had my wife sold on the water cooler look. Then, when I finally got the OK to order everything, I got on the phone with Axiom. Every time I talked to someone – and I do mean EVERY TIME – they talked me down off of the speakers I wanted to buy. Had my heart set of the m60’s, Alan Lofft told me that in my room, I wouldn’t hear a difference between the 60’s ($900) and the 22’s ($440) and a sub. Can’t argue with that logic. Then the center moved to the 100 from the 150 ($240 rather than $385), the rear surrounds to the q4’s (another $100 savings) – all with the same logic – there won’t be a sonic difference.

When you meet or read posts from Axiomites that are absolutely rabid about their speakers – this is why. Never, and I do mean NEVER, have I dealt with a company that had as high business ethics as Axiom. Who ever heard of a company trying to sell you less because you don’t need it? Mostly, they are either trying to sell you as much as possible or they would keep their mouths shut and let you over-purchase – hey, the customer is always right – right?

Well, after doing the math and considering Axiom’s return policy I figured that any company that was treating me this well deserved my business. On the spur of the moment (I know, an Audioholic’s sin!) I decided to get the ep500 and give it a chance – I could always send it back and get the SVS if I didn’t like it. I just didn’t give them a chance to talk me down because I wanted big bass and low extension.

My point – I’ve loved my ep500 but I’ve always had this little tinge of regret thinking that I was missing something by skipping the SVS. I’m sure the SVS is a good product but after reading this review (and Gene, let me tell you, it was freaky how you had some of the exact same experiences as me, 60hz buzz, moving the thing, placement…it was like I wrote the review – except all that measurement stuff :p ), all my doubts are displaced. I encourage anyone looking for a sub in this price range to give the ep500 a hard look.
 
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talannar

Junior Audioholic
How did the EP500 do at sub-20hz? My fiance listens to pipe organ music and likes to feel the notes before she hears them.

I LOVE feeling an explosion before I hear it, but if justifying a purchase based on what the fiance wants gets me the new sub, then that's what I'm willing to do.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I added up all the stars (80) and divided by the number categories (17) and come up with an overall rating of 4.7 stars, or 4-3/4 stars for the Canadian subwoofer. Where does your 5-star overall rating come from? Did you give extra credit for the free Moosehead beer while at the factory?
We don't add up all the stars as you did to determine a final score. We break it down into categories of:
Performance
Practical Considerations
Value

the 5 star rating you saw is for Value only since we feel this is a class leading product at its asking price. Next time I visit Axiom I will see if they have any Moosehead, though I prefer an American IPA myself ;)

I don't see any distortion ratings...

How does it compare to the HGS-15X?
We are working on a way to accurately measure distortion and should include these types of measurements in the future. I am not sure how the HGS-15X compares since Ray was the one who conducted that review. However, it is almost $900 more than the Axiom.
 
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jzac

Audioholic
waiting patiently...

Oh, I had no doubt that the EP-500 would shine in performance. Like mnormas said, Axiom knows how to deliver a stunner product for a very reasonable price because of their sophisticated manufacturing process, which helps in keeping the costs down... and unlike others, they pass the savings on to the customers. Their customer service folks are worth every penny of the money spent... IMHO.

I'm a mighty big fan of their products... damn, you can tell! :D I have a bunch of their products... including their EP-600. I'm waiting for Gene's review on the EP-600, which I know is forthcoming... been waiting for ever it feels! :D All I can say about that speaker is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: everytime I listen to it. Absolutely incredible! So, waiting I am... patiently for what the experts say about the EP-600. :cool:
 
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9f9c7z

Banned
I forgot to mention these... When I read the review last night I didn’t see anything about the finishes that were available for the sub. I presumed it was only available in black. Your Score Card only lists a black finish, and the ‘Cabinet’ section of the review makes no mention if alternative finishes are available. Black is something that would never get past the interior-decorator/CFO/boss/she-creature. After visiting the website I see there are stained wood finishes available. Did I miss it in the review?

Also, (this goes for all of the reviews on Audioholic) you made no mention of safety approval, if any. The idea of stuffing an amp into a non-vented enclosure causes a flag to go up. Not as concerned with a class D amp, but it would be nice to know if a product has passed independent testing for safety, i.e. if things go wrong, how ‘wrong’ are things going to get. There are several independent, non-profit organization that do safety testing; TUV is big in Europe, Apex in Japan, and of course UL is just about everywhere, UL-C and CSA are in Canada. Maybe it would be a good idea to add a category for stars (0 or 5, nothing in between) for whether or not an electrical product has safety certification. Just a thought.
 
Rock&Roll Ninja

Rock&Roll Ninja

Audioholic Field Marshall
Must stop hand from getting to wallet can't afford another $1200 on Visa card!

Or I could always blackmail 9f9c7z into buying mine, Since very few people can get away with calling the boss "She-Creature"......
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I forgot to mention these... When I read the review last night I didn’t see anything about the finishes that were available for the sub.
Thanks for pointing that out. I added a comment about the finishes at the end of page 5 in the review.

Also, (this goes for all of the reviews on Audioholic) you made no mention of safety approval, if any.
I assumed the safety approvals were a given. In any event, the backpanel of the EP500/600 have SA and CE marks and complies with Part 15 of the FCC.

Perhaps we should start listing approval marks on products, especially since many amps and power conditioners out there don't have UL approval. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
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craigsub

Audioholic Chief
9f9c7z said:
I forgot to mention these... When I read the review last night I didn’t see anything about the finishes that were available for the sub. I presumed it was only available in black. Your Score Card only lists a black finish, and the ‘Cabinet’ section of the review makes no mention if alternative finishes are available. Black is something that would never get past the interior-decorator/CFO/boss/she-creature. After visiting the website I see there are stained wood finishes available. Did I miss it in the review?

Also, (this goes for all of the reviews on Audioholic) you made no mention of safety approval, if any. The idea of stuffing an amp into a non-vented enclosure causes a flag to go up. Not as concerned with a class D amp, but it would be nice to know if a product has passed independent testing for safety, i.e. if things go wrong, how ‘wrong’ are things going to get. There are several independent, non-profit organization that do safety testing; TUV is big in Europe, Apex in Japan, and of course UL is just about everywhere, UL-C and CSA are in Canada. Maybe it would be a good idea to add a category for stars (0 or 5, nothing in between) for whether or not an electrical product has safety certification. Just a thought.
There are Four standard finishes (including cherry, maple, and beechwood), plus 15 finish upgrades for $95. The upgrades are nothing short of beautiful. Even my wife says so ... :)

As for safety, No Axiom subwoofer has ever caught on fire ... ;)
 
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9f9c7z

Banned
craigsub said:
As for safety, No Axiom subwoofer has ever caught on fire ... ;)
And no passenger airliner has ever fallen from the sky…until the first one did. ;)

Amplifiers (and other audio toys) are made from discrete components that originate with other manufacturers well beyond the control of the end-product manufacturer. To that end, any manf’r relies on the maker of OEM parts for the integrity of those parts. Safety certification isn’t just about preventing a fire, it’s about what happens when there is one, i.e. if one of those OEM components that is beyond the control of the subwoofer manfr fails.

For instance, look at any UL/CSA approved computer. Wherever the power supply is inside the case, and wherever there is a pc board inside the case, there will be no air vent holes in the case below them. That’s because if those item should ever catch fire, they can drip flaming residue thru the vent holes, onto carpeting, and start the room burning. There will be no vent holes in the top of the case, either, ‘les a conductive item commonly found in an office environment (think staple or paper clip) were to fall in, cause an electrical short and start a fire. An ‘approve’ computer that catches fire will contain the fire within the case.

Fwiw, that’s at the root of the heat problem in those mini-ATX computers that are so popular for home theater pc applications. Vents in the top and bottom of the case would go a very long way to solve the excessive heat problem, but it’s a no-can-do if the manf wants safety certification for their product.

The CE mark is a self-administered, voluntary program of compliance for the marketing standards of items to be sold in Europe. Pretty much any manf that thinks their product meet the requirements for the CE mark can affix the CE mark to their product. It is not safety certification but it does involve some basic aspects of safety at a very low level, i.e. do ‘not stick fork in eye’. There is no product testing or review for the CE mark, so it is not comprehensive in the way an independent, third party’s safety certification is.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Finally some axiom subs with grunt

I was always baffled why Axiom couldn't put out a good subwoofer. Although they were good for music, I found them lacking in grunt whne it came to home theater. I had auditioined the Epicenter175 ( the older 10" model) and walked away disappointed. Its a relief to see that they have subs now to back up their speakers.
 
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craigsub

Audioholic Chief
9f9c7z said:
And no passenger airliner has ever fallen from the sky…until the first one did. ;)
Actually, (when you consider any manned flight has a passenger) they all fell out of the sky until the first one flew ... :p

And Gene answered your concern, of course.
 
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tgrisham

Enthusiast
How can the Axiom be "best in class" when the Hsu VTF-3 Mark 2 can boast +/- 1 dB at 20 Hz, usable SPL to 16 Hz and costs so much less ($699)?
 
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craigsub

Audioholic Chief
tgrisham said:
How can the Axiom be "best in class" when the Hsu VTF-3 Mark 2 can boast +/- 1 dB at 20 Hz, usable SPL to 16 Hz and costs so much less ($699)?
That is why independent tests are done, to find out for sure. I love the VTF-3 as a fantastic value in a subwoofer, and actually owned two for several months.

Can you point to an independent lab test which proves the +/- 1 dB down to 20 Hz claim ?
 
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