AV123 x-sub anything bad about this, anything good?

[Johnd]

Infinite patience?? Present yourself, sir! Seriously though - it sounds to me like he really is looking for help and advice, but he just doesn't quite know the correct forum etiquette, it's not necessarily a reason to bash the guy. So what if he's talking pennies - not everyone is rich and can afford high-end gear, that doesn't make them any less of a potential fellow 'holic does it? Everyone of us here had to start somewhere, remember...

Yes, Halon, INFINITE patience, like the Mahatma.

I know Halon. But it is not etiquette that I am seeking. I was plain in my post, and will absolutely delete it if need be. Was I not plain? Do you not find his actions questionable? And if so, what is the harm in my elucidating those actions? Have you read through all of his threads as I did (before I posted my post)?

 

[Halon451]

read through all of his threads as I did (before I posted my post)

Okay, I just read through them - I don't know, instead of calling the guy out, we could instead explain to him that it is not necessary to post so many multiple threads centered around the same basic question. There was one that I had even responded to, I didn't realize it was the same dude. Oh well, never matter.

Just reading through them all chronologically, I can gather that he does indeed intend to purchase a new sub, is budget limited, and so far, most of the suggestions given to him thus far are way out of his price range, so how is that helping? Granted, there have been a few suggestions within his range, but for a first-time internet buyer, it can be a little precarious as you don't really know what you're getting, therefore hesitant to click on the ol' 'Submit Order' button.

I will say this though, to the OP - it certainly wasn't necessary to start this thread after all the help/suggestions you've been given, and then proceed to post a note saying you might as well find another board, because no one responded within an hour or two... tsk, tsk.

Take this friendly advice: If you truly need some help in deciding, stick with one thread and be patient. Listen to many of the suggestions given and remember that you don't have to buy a sub today or tomorrow - with the right sub, you're likely to get many years of enjoyment out of it, rather than wasting time and money 8 months from now, when you've decided that a $180 sub just isn't cutting it. If you buy from the internet, make sure there is a return policy and/or audition period, and warranty, and that you're buying from a reputable seller.

That's all I have to give - it's godd**m beer-thirty already.

 

[Johnd]

I will say this though, to the OP - it certainly wasn't necessary to start this thread after all the help/suggestions you've been given, and then proceed to post a note saying you might as well find another board, because no one responded within an hour or two... tsk, tsk.

Well, right Halon. And it's not my job to police this thread. I understand that. But I've spent time and thought on this, and what's the harm in me illustrating his past activity here. If it is simply a lack of etiquette on his part...so be it. But nothing that I posted is inaccurate...if he simply lacks grace, well, that's not a sin. But if it's more than that... And if he lacks the muster to call me on my mistaken thread, there's always the everpresent little angel (Halon ) on my right shoulder countering the little devil on my left to do the right thing and keep my Tourrettes in check.

 

[Soundman]

Well, for starters I'm not an audiophile, because I don't even know what that means. It doesn't take a classification to appreciate great sound though, from a novice to a true audio junkie.

I understand your dilemna, and share your pain on the 'needing money for the house, kids, other things'. The best I can suggest is do what I did, which was sit down with my wife and said, "Look, I want to put away a few bucks here and there to feed my HT habit, like maybe 'x' amount of dollars per paycheck, etc.'. We talked about it, and made sure our other priorities would be covered no matter what, and while it does take some time, it's not impossible. The good rule of life is that anything can be negotiated with fair compromise.

For a room that size, the x-sub may sound pretty good, but it won't provide any room-shaking effects at all. Throw in other unknown factors like vaulted ceilings (which you didn't specifiy) or an end that opens up into another room, etc., and it's much more difficult for that small sub to deliver powerful sound.

If you were able to save up the dough, get an SVS or Hsu model, I guarantee you that you will wonder what the hell you were ever thinking trying to buy a sub for any less. It will wow you, trust me.

And your questions are anything but trivial.

This is excellent advise. Most of us aren't rich and have a budget to work with. I'm in a similar situation, a wife a kid, etc. So, I've had to build my system a little at a time. I still have a long way to go, but I'm getting there. Currently, I am saving up for the SVS PB-13 Ultra! I almost settled for something much less, but realized a while back that it will be well worth the wait to get what I really want. I'm not saying he needs to get the Ultra, but, OP if you're reading this, save up for something you wont regret, something you'll be truely happy with.

 

[Halon451]

Well, right Halon. And it's not my job to police this thread. I understand that. But I've spent time and thought on this, and what's the harm in me illustrating his past activity here. If it is simply a lack of etiquette on his part...so be it. But nothing that I posted is inaccurate...if he simply lacks grace, well, that's not a sin. But if it's more than that... And if he lacks the muster to call me on my mistaken thread, there's always the everpresent little angel (Halon ) on my right shoulder countering the little devil on my left to do the right thing and keep my Tourrettes in check.

Me.. an angel - now that's funny right there. LMAO This post almost sounds like agreement with my former notes... almost.