I'm referring to your average 128K MP3, which is how most people record their MP3s. Yes, a properly encoded, lossless-encoded, or high VBR can be very hard to distinguish, but it's impossible to argue that it's as good as a DVD-A, Super Audio, or even a CD. I shouldn't have to clarify my statement because the argument is moot, MP3s can not be as good as the original source, we all know this is true. While I can appreciate your desire to argue over this, there's really no point to it. If you only take issue with my use of the word "crap", then take heart in knowing that I use "crap" to describe a lot of crap. Call it lazy typing...