Anyone running an Anthem P5

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RainMan

Junior Audioholic
Ok I think you got it . I never noticed that before , but yes I set to LFE only and the cross over option is in fact gone . So your saying this makes the speakers full range and before I had them at 40 hz and up ?
i will start reading the manual . Sorry I feel bad asking questions before studying the manual first a those people annoy me . Guess that's why I annoy myself lol
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Ok I think you got it . I never noticed that before , but yes I set to LFE only and the cross over option is in fact gone . So your saying this makes the speakers full range and before I had them at 40 hz and up ?
i will start reading the manual . Sorry I feel bad asking questions before studying the manual first a those people annoy me . Guess that's why I annoy myself lol
No, you misunderstand what I said, sorry I was clear. Your speakers will play full band if you set them to large, regardless of the crossover settings. Let's do it in point form as follow.

1) When you set it to LFE+Main, L,R,SR,SL speakers to large, and crossover to 40 Hz, you were still running the speakers full band, but you were also redirecting bass signals from 40 Hz down that are meant for those 4 speakers (it says "Main" but probably the surrounds as well from what I can see), to the subwoofer, so you were getting extra bass that Audyssey has not allowed for.

2) When you set it to LFE and all 4 Studio 100 to large, you are running all of them full band but at least you are no longer redirecting any bass to the subwoofer, in other words, the subwoofer will be getting the LFE signal only and the "large" speakers play their own bass (full band).

That is why in most cases it is better to set the speakers to small, so that the low frequencies below Crossover point (80Hz being a good rule of thumb) are redirected to the subwoofer. The subwoofer will handle the LFE (the signals meant for the sub channel) as well as the bass originally meant for the other channels that are now redirected to it. The other 4 speakers will have easier time doing what they are best at, without having to play the low bass. Audyssey will also be able to perform better, without having to resolve the conflicts between low bass produced by 4 speakers and 1 subwoofer, all in different locations.

Back to 1), in that case you can see that at below your crossover point, you were basically "doubling" the low bass you would normal get, and the mid bass will appear to be lacking in proportion. You surely picked that up with your apparently very capable hearing ability.

Lastly, check to see if your dynamic volume and dynamic EQ are on. If they are, try turning them off. They too, could have some effects on what you are experiencing. I have the feeling that once you set everything up correctly you will like the overall sound quality even better.

If you don't have time to re-run Audyssey and play with the settings, try selecting "pure direct" and you may get your mid bass back right away.
 
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Cos

Audioholic Samurai
Reading all of tips in this post makes me realize that I need to go back and adjust my own settings on my equipment. I like the way mine sounds, but I think I could definitely tweek things, very informative!
 
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RainMan

Junior Audioholic
Wow Peng you are an encyclopedia of info , thank you and others for there expertise . This gets more technical all the time . I read the dang manual and you still made better sense of it than I did . I wish they could make it easier to understand as I read it 20 times and still interpret it differently each time . But you have clarified it for me though .
Believe it or not after all this I'm still thinking a better amp may be in order . It sounds pretty darn good as it is though, it's just I get conflicting info from a local shop as Brad swears that by bi amping two MCA amplifiers that the sound is far superior . They did volunteer to let me try the amps first before ordering ,so maybe I should try it and prove him wrong . I would only be able to check it for music as they only carry an MCA 30 and a 20 in stock .
But first I'm going to take your advice and run audyssey with the new settings

i would sooner spend the money on a wood planer and jointer though
 
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RainMan

Junior Audioholic
Thought I would include a pic . This is older as I have upgraded to V5's now

 
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RainMan

Junior Audioholic
Cos
I just realized you have the anthem processor . I'm not understanding the difference between the statement processor and the one you have , other than the statement proc is twice the money .
I was debating to do the same thing you have , go with the MCA50 amp and the same processor , but I feel it's kind of antiquated for what you get . There still using a serial port and there's also no network port , so I would have to buy a Blueray player capable of streaming my wav files from my network drive . So to me it seems like I'd be going backwards.
I heard they had to make a new circuit board to accommodate 3D with the anthem processors , and it sounds to me like instead of retooling the units to bring them up to date ,instead there band-aiding them . I could be wrong here , its just I thought I read in 3D mode there was some by pass happening and you loosen screen menus etc
 
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Cos

Audioholic Samurai
Sorry for the delayed response. I am happy with the AVM50V as I do watch very little 3D content and I wouldn't necessarily call it a Band-Aid solution if the replace the board. That is one of the main reasons I went with my AVM30, but the upgrades are not cheap. Its true that it is definitely behind the times in technology features (No 4k Pass Through), but I purchased it based for a few different reasons. (Easy no hassle set up / all the audio decoding formats / sound quality.) To put things in perspective, I just purchased the Integra 80.3 Preamp (now trying to troubleshoot) which has all the bells and whistles, for my Family Room. It definitely has more of the toys, but doesn't feel as solid as the Anthem. Does not play nicely apparently with my older PVA-7 Amp :(. I think I just got a bad unit, as I demo'd this before and it worked great so my dealer is lending me their unit to test.
 
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RainMan

Junior Audioholic
I can't use 3D regardless as I have poor uncorrectable vision in one eye , so it's not a big factor right now but in the future I may be able to regain some site .
I'm liking the anthem statement amp and processor ,as all my speakers are paradigm now anyways so I feel compelled to go with the anthem as its there sister company anyways . Also I don't know of any other good choices for processors so seeing as we have an anthem dealer in town I would go that route .
I may get the P5 amp soon , but am going to wait and see if they redesign the processors so there in the 20th century . As you mentioned SQ is the bottom line . As I speak of SQ you may be frowning upon my choice of steaming wav files from a network drive . I don't know what the general consensus is here regarding streaming wav's , as I think there's a little loss in SQ .
But because I like the ease at which I can access my music library I put up with the fact that it may not be perfect . I would miss this feature as I use it often on my av7005 . I do realize I could buy a bluray that would give me back the ability to stream off a network drive , but I can't believe for 10 grand the anthem statement can't

Cos I do appreciated your input here a lot . Thanks
 
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