Any mixers that have HDMI or USB Inputs?

[vyacheslav]

Hello,

This is my first post here. I am not up on the latest technology so I wanted to ask the "experts" here. Thank you for letting me be a part of this forum.

Back in "the day" (whatever that means!), i would connect my VCR/DVD Player, CD Player and Cable Box to my stereo (via red/white RCA Cables), so I could enjoy much higher quality sound from those components as opposed to the default TV speakers. I then scrapped the stereo in favor of a small digital mixer (Berhinger Xenyx 502; I also have a Yamaha MG06) and powered studio monitors. This is/was a much cleaner looking setup and sounded amazing. I connected the components to the mixer with red/white RCA cables from the individual device to the mixer by using RCA female to 1/4" male TS adapters.

Like many of us, I have "cut the cord" and I only use Amazon Fire TV (the box, not the stick) and a Sony Blu-Ray player now. I would like to return to the mixer/powered studio monitor setup that I enjoy (rather than rely on the default TV speakers), but the Amazon Fire TV only has HDMI or a USB output. The Blu-Ray player only has an HDMI output. How can I connect these components directly to the mixer like I did previously (via the RCA cables in the past)? To the best of my knowledge, no one makes a mixer that accepts HDMI or USB inputs. There are mixers that have USB outputs for sending the data to a computer/recording software. Does anyone know if any (affordable) mixers like that exist? Are there any adapters out there that go from female HDMI to either male XLR or 1/4" TRS inputs?

I know that my (60", modern Vizio flat screen) TV has RCA audio outputs, which I could run to my mixer, but that would mean I have to have the TV powered on just to listen to music (I listen a lot to Amazon Prime music and also music on my phone, which I can plug directly into the mixer by using a 1/8" TRS female to 1/4" TRS male adapter). I prefer to listen to the music while I'm just relaxing or doing other things, so I would prefer not to have the TV on. Also, I wouldn't want the TV speakers as well as the audio from the monitors at the same time. Finally, sometimes I want to listen to a good old fashioned CD, which I can use the Blu-Ray player for. Again, I would not want the TV on just to be able to play a CD in the Blu-Ray player.

Any suggestions for what I am trying to accomplish? Ideally, I would like to run the Amazon Fire TV, the Blu-Ray player and my phone all into the mixer separately, so I can EQ each device/channel separately.

Thanks so much for your help!

V

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

I’m pretty sure you’re flat out of luck on this one. The reason is that such mixers are used for live sound. Nothing in that world – guitars, amplifiers, electronic keyboards, microphones, etc. – have HDMI outputs. It’s a really flimsy connection scheme that would never hold up to the rigors or stage use. So there’s no reason for manufacturers to accommodate HDMI.

The only exception is the USB microphone category, but those are designed to plug directly into a computer.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[TLS Guy]

Hello,

This is my first post here. I am not up on the latest technology so I wanted to ask the "experts" here. Thank you for letting me be a part of this forum.

Back in "the day" (whatever that means!), i would connect my VCR/DVD Player, CD Player and Cable Box to my stereo (via red/white RCA Cables), so I could enjoy much higher quality sound from those components as opposed to the default TV speakers. I then scrapped the stereo in favor of a small digital mixer (Berhinger Xenyx 502; I also have a Yamaha MG06) and powered studio monitors. This is/was a much cleaner looking setup and sounded amazing. I connected the components to the mixer with red/white RCA cables from the individual device to the mixer by using RCA female to 1/4" male TS adapters.

Like many of us, I have "cut the cord" and I only use Amazon Fire TV (the box, not the stick) and a Sony Blu-Ray player now. I would like to return to the mixer/powered studio monitor setup that I enjoy (rather than rely on the default TV speakers), but the Amazon Fire TV only has HDMI or a USB output. The Blu-Ray player only has an HDMI output. How can I connect these components directly to the mixer like I did previously (via the RCA cables in the past)? To the best of my knowledge, no one makes a mixer that accepts HDMI or USB inputs. There are mixers that have USB outputs for sending the data to a computer/recording software. Does anyone know if any (affordable) mixers like that exist? Are there any adapters out there that go from female HDMI to either male XLR or 1/4" TRS inputs?

I know that my (60", modern Vizio flat screen) TV has RCA audio outputs, which I could run to my mixer, but that would mean I have to have the TV powered on just to listen to music (I listen a lot to Amazon Prime music and also music on my phone, which I can plug directly into the mixer by using a 1/8" TRS female to 1/4" TRS male adapter). I prefer to listen to the music while I'm just relaxing or doing other things, so I would prefer not to have the TV on. Also, I wouldn't want the TV speakers as well as the audio from the monitors at the same time. Finally, sometimes I want to listen to a good old fashioned CD, which I can use the Blu-Ray player for. Again, I would not want the TV on just to be able to play a CD in the Blu-Ray player.

Any suggestions for what I am trying to accomplish? Ideally, I would like to run the Amazon Fire TV, the Blu-Ray player and my phone all into the mixer separately, so I can EQ each device/channel separately.

Thanks so much for your help!

V

This is not possible. The reason is DRM. That is digital rights management. Mixers are principly used in recording, and or, live PA. So they don't want you recording copyright material. At its heart HDMI is a copying prevention system, that requires constant communication between sending and receiving devices, to check the codes.

Now a mixer will have a USB output today, but as far as I know not an input for a USB mic. The USB connection is for the mixer to communicate with the recording program on a computer DAW (Digital Audio Work Station). This is so the program can record and play back to the mixer, which contains two way Dacs. Usually the DAW screen is large and you split it between the mixer screen and the recording software screen.

This is a screen shot from my DAW and RME mixer/DAC.

So unfortunately to do what you want, requires a receiver or pre/amp processor. DRM has made it so.

 

[viorelc]

You suggest FireTV and BlueRay player as reasons for an HDMI solution (maybe there’s more, I only stopped at this). Listening to Amazon Music does not depend on FireTV, and seems a bit hard to control the FireTV without a TV (maybe with the voice control of the remote or an Echo device and Alexa?)

I’d start with a clear idea of the sources, before focusing on tools, devices and their interfaces. Without fully understanding your intent, it appears that a simple setup would be with a smart phone or tablet, and connect it to a Bluetooth receiver plugged directly into the Mixer.


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[AcuDefTechGuy]

I was also looking for a Yamaha Stereo Mixer with HDMI for my Karaoke.

But they don't exist, as already been said.

I had to use a HDMI-to-Component+RCA Audio Converter.

The HDMI goes into the Converter. Then the L/R Audio goes out of the Converter and into the Yamaha Mixer.

But this is just for my Karaoke.

For everything else, I would use an AVR. If your speakers don't have typical speaker wires, they do make adapters.

 

[TLS Guy]

I was also looking for a Yamaha Stereo Mixer with HDMI for my Karaoke.

But they don't exist, as already been said.

I had to use a HDMI-to-Component+RCA Audio Converter.

The HDMI goes into the Converter. Then the L/R Audio goes out of the Converter and into the Yamaha Mixer.

But this is just for my Karaoke.

For everything else, I would use an AVR. If your speakers don't have typical speaker wires, they do make adapters.

Yes he could use an audio extractor like you are using. He would have to have an HDMI switcher as well. So he would connect his peripherals to the switch and the output of the extractor to the TV and the audio out of the extractor to his sound system. There would be a bird's nest of cables though.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Yes he could use an audio extractor like you are using. He would have to have an HDMI switcher as well. So he would connect his peripherals to the switch and the output of the extractor to the TV and the audio out of the extractor to his sound system. There would be a bird's nest of cables though.

Why the HDMI switcher?

The HDMI Converter can also have HDMI Output Plus RCA L/R Audio Output.

So HDMI from BD player to the HDMI Convertor Input. Then HDMI Output from Convertor to TV HDMI Input and RCA L/R Output to his Mixer.

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[TLS Guy]

Why the HDMI switcher?

The HDMI Converter can also have HDMI Output Plus RCA L/R Audio Output.

So HDMI from BD player to the HDMI Convertor Input. Then HDMI Output from Convertor to TV HDMI Input and RCA L/R Output to his Mixer.

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Without a switcher he would only be able to use one HDMI device.

 

[BMXTRIX]

What you are looking for is a HDMI audio extractor. These are readily available on Amazon, but you will want to be aware of whether you are working with 1080p video or 4K HDR video. The HDMI audio extractors also may have multiple inputs so they will act as both a HDMI switcher as well as a HDMI audio extractor at the same time.

The difference between 1080p video connectivity and 4KHDR is that one connection is older and less money, while the newer 4K standard will require a HDMI setup that supports 18Gb/s.

Without getting a switcher built in, a unit like this is rated to support 4KHDR...

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You will note that it offers the Red/White analog RCA outputs you are looking for. A dip switch on one side of the unit will let your source gear know that you want 2 channel stereo (instead of surround sound).

A unit like this is LESS expensive and has support for 3 HDMI sources and integrates the audio extraction. It is what I would buy.

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It should be noted that for about $300 you can buy a AV receiver which fully supports stereo, surround sound, has multiple HDMI inputs, and will be more reliable overall.

 

[TLS Guy]

What you are looking for is a HDMI audio extractor. These are readily available on Amazon, but you will want to be aware of whether you are working with 1080p video or 4K HDR video. The HDMI audio extractors also may have multiple inputs so they will act as both a HDMI switcher as well as a HDMI audio extractor at the same time.

The difference between 1080p video connectivity and 4KHDR is that one connection is older and less money, while the newer 4K standard will require a HDMI setup that supports 18Gb/s.

Without getting a switcher built in, a unit like this is rated to support 4KHDR...

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or

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You will note that it offers the Red/White analog RCA outputs you are looking for. A dip switch on one side of the unit will let your source gear know that you want 2 channel stereo (instead of surround sound).

A unit like this is LESS expensive and has support for 3 HDMI sources and integrates the audio extraction. It is what I would buy.

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It should be noted that for about $300 you can buy a AV receiver which fully supports stereo, surround sound, has multiple HDMI inputs, and will be more reliable overall.

That $54 unit looks a good buy if it really works. There is only one customer review.

I do think he would be better off with a receiver, but I don't know what equipment he already has.